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Homeland Security backs off idea of civilian border patrol
Denton Record-Chronicle/AP ^ | 7/21/05 | Jeremiah Marquez/AP

Posted on 07/21/2005 2:44:05 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday it has no plans to enlist citizens volunteers to patrol U.S. borders on the day after its top border enforcement official said he was exploring how to involve civilians in his agency's work.

On Wednesday, Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner told The Associated Press that his agency was considering the training of volunteers to create "something akin to a Border Patrol auxiliary."

In a refutation of that controversial idea, a Homeland Security spokesman issued a statement Thursday backing off Bonner's suggestion.

"There are currently no plans by the Department of Homeland Security to use civilian volunteers to patrol the border," spokesman Brian J. Roehrkasse said. "That job should continue to be done by the highly trained, professional law enforcement officials."

Roehrkasse added that Bonner, whose agency is part of Homeland Security, had not told department officials "any specific details of the idea."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bonner; dhs; illegalailens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen; terrorism
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
The federal government is relentless in their pursuit to acquire more and more authority, but they consistently demonstrate their unwillingness and inability to implement the very laws they pass. The time is now for states to assert themselves ... pass and ENFORCE laws important to your states ... let the ACLU lawyers whine and appeal and file briefs until the Supreme Court rules, maybe four years later. Then pass new initiatives, ENFORCE them, and watch the briefcase bandits do their four year dance again. The states must EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. The bloated federal bureaucracy has achieved the inevitable state of inertia, and the federal bureaucracy is the enemy.
21 posted on 07/21/2005 4:07:34 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: summer
Well, that sea change may have just met the tide.
22 posted on 07/21/2005 4:16:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: ozarkgirl

So is this utter foolishness and nonsense the result of (1) wanting to continue mostly chummy political relations with Mexico (the Mexicans really see the U.S. as easy pickings, don't they? Why are we proving them right?!) or (2)some NWO dream of a North American nation consisting of the U.S./Mexico/Canada, or (3) to appease the many businesses that are now relying on illegals to do things cheaply inside the U.S.?

Yeesh, who says we don't contribute enough to third world economies -- between all the $$$$ given as aid and the many businesses that move and have moved their operations outside the U.S. over the years. And now we have even more businesses than ever hiring illegal aliens -- openly his time -- within the U.S.

No civilian patrol? This is another sell out / giveaway any way it is sliced. And it is highly dangerous these days.

My hope is that the volunteer civilian groups continue to band together and multiply despite what the Feds want...


23 posted on 07/21/2005 4:19:31 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Major Bummer!

Original article here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1447239/posts?page=1


24 posted on 07/21/2005 4:21:10 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: GhostofWCooper

Visions of a Police State keep coming to mind.


25 posted on 07/21/2005 4:22:00 PM PDT by airborne
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To: GhostofWCooper
"It might slow down the invasion..."

Exactly what I thought but I think I would use the word "would".

26 posted on 07/21/2005 4:23:39 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (When Tancredo speaks: The World Gets The Shakes!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
""There are currently no plans by the Department of Homeland Security to use civilian volunteers to patrol the border," spokesman Brian J. Roehrkasse said. "That job should continue to be done by the highly trained, professional law enforcement officials." " Then why in the hell isn't the Homeland Security doing it? What a pack of a@@holes.
27 posted on 07/21/2005 4:25:18 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner told The Associated Press that his agency was considering the training of volunteers to create "something akin to a Border Patrol auxiliary.".... In a refutation of that controversial idea, a Homeland Security spokesman issued a statement Thursday backing off Bonner's suggestion.

Is it a possibility that there is a mutiny in the ranks over Bush's demonstarted unwillingness to enforce our boarders?

If there is a mutiny of common sense and patriotism brewing, I hope it surfaces soon before all the good Bush has done in the middle east is washed down the drain by the invading Mexican hordes.

28 posted on 07/21/2005 4:30:39 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
"There are currently no plans by the Department of Homeland Security to use civilian volunteers to patrol the border,"

And that, my friends, is the lie of the day. The Department of Homeland Security, through the United States Coast Guard Auxiliary, uses civilians to provide border security on a daily basis.

The idiot that made that comment is either ignorant or stupid...or else he thinks we are. Yeah, that's probably more like it.

29 posted on 07/21/2005 4:45:18 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: GhostofWCooper
Of course they don't want any volunteers to assist the BP. It might slow down the invasion...

Absolutely! I think the success of the Minutemen terrified Bush, and he will do anything to stop them from keeping illegal Mexicans from coming in.

Tancredo said there are 30 million more aliens who are going to come to America in the next few years. Bush and Fox are allowing only a few million in in a given time. Keeping aliens out will ruin Bush's time table.

30 posted on 07/21/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Translation: the "lets do nothing some more" Washington bureaucrats are still in charge.

Business as usual.

31 posted on 07/21/2005 5:49:02 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: etcetera

Correction:The feds view you,John Q. Citizen as a liability not an asset. What truly pisses off the feds is the fact that you refuse to shut-up sit down & do as you are told by your "intellectually superior government officials". The fact that these same govt. officials aren't getting the job done due to lack of will to do what is politically incorrect but needed as well as a blatant refusal to insist that the United States of America will have it's borders respected & under control.


32 posted on 07/21/2005 5:53:46 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Two bookmarks, two days. And, I guess, according to Bonner's statement, they're worried about "clericals"?


33 posted on 07/21/2005 6:02:20 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

"There are currently no plans by the Department of Homeland Security to use civilian volunteers to patrol the border," spokesman Brian J. Roehrkasse said. "That job should continue to be done by the highly trained, professional law enforcement officials."

Bah humbug! How are you, Mr. Roehrkasse, going to explain to the American people, after some jihadist muslim smuggles in WMDs and uses them, why you didn't use the volunteers?


34 posted on 07/21/2005 6:35:51 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: HiJinx

BTTT


35 posted on 07/21/2005 10:31:40 PM PDT by in the Arena (CAPT (USAF) James Wayne Herrick, Jr. (Call Sign: FireFly33). MIA Laos 27 Oct 69)
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To: HiJinx

36 posted on 07/21/2005 10:39:58 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: Black Tooth

Yeah, I noticed the glaring and unsual presence of the use of the word, "professional..." in the denial statement.

They're law enforcement...people respect that (most of us), but once people start asserting the "we're professionals" tag (unless they have medical or law degrees, have otherwised earned and received a 'doctorate' of some sort), there's a problem.

In the method it's used in that statement ("highly trained professional.."), they're making some additional statement that indicates a covert purpose, to my view.

It's just not necessary language and it's also inaccurate language, which is why I say it indicates some covert intention in that statement.


37 posted on 07/22/2005 12:49:51 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: hoosierham

Yeah, agreed, but, unfortunatley, it's not "false" elitism...but you've hit the nail on the head by noticing that element of separation there. Which is what I was just trying to describe (not sure I did, earlier comments here)...something about that statement, "highly trained professional law enforcement" (which means, NOT YOU!), is both too inexact and too separist for my comfort.

I mean here, people respect law enforcement. Most people, anyway. Such that, it's already a complete and effective concept, right there, to refer to 'law enforcemen' versus the public, versus volunteers, etc.

But to use those emphatic words, "highly trained professional..." seems to be saying something while avoiding spelling it out...elitism, yes, it is, but it's also rather dangerously risky and inaccurate language.


38 posted on 07/22/2005 12:55:19 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

Good post, and I am glad someone else could see and understand this.


39 posted on 07/22/2005 10:02:25 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


40 posted on 07/22/2005 11:29:37 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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