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Advice needed: Being harassed by census worker
07/21/2005 | Me

Posted on 07/21/2005 10:59:16 AM PDT by redbaiter

Two months ago a field agent from the US Census Bureau left a business card under my door, with a note requesting an interview for a survey the Bureau does on unemployment and income. The note explained the purpose of the survey and outlined the sorts of questions that would be asked (mostly income and work-related stuff). I called him back at the number provided, told him that my income was none of his business and requested that he not contact me any more.

This was not effective, and he continued to try to contact me. So I called him back again and ordered him to cease and desist. This too was ineffective, and he continues to try and contact me even now, two months later. (In the summer I am rarely home before 9PM so he has never succeeded.)

I asked around, and it turns out he has a pattern of similar behavior.

What can I do to make this guy cease and desist?


TOPICS: US: Delaware; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: census; chillout; chillpill; headcount; relaxfolks; takeiteasy
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To: ErnBatavia
I think I'd have a problem; right off the top of my head, I'd be wondering why someone claimed to be collecting census data in the year 2005.

Its the monthly household employment survey that was showing positive growth during the past couple years when the Employer based surveys were not. The Census collects that info.

121 posted on 07/21/2005 12:50:34 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Strategerist
...there'd basically would be no ability for government to make a decision about anything.

This would be a bad thing because...

122 posted on 07/21/2005 12:50:48 PM PDT by T Wayne (I'm the foreman of the paving crew!!!!!)
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To: redbaiter

I usually just start talking real dirty and start breathing heavy. They never call back.


123 posted on 07/21/2005 12:51:11 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Strategerist
If the sole means of data collection by the government was an every 10 year headcount, there'd basically would be no ability for government to make a decision about anything.

Gee, they might have to come back home and meet and actually talk to the people instead of the lobbyist fact finding trips to Aspen and ...

124 posted on 07/21/2005 12:51:31 PM PDT by RJL
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To: azhenfud
That's pretty good, but it involves calling him, something I'm trying to avoid... It's worth trying though... I spoke with the supervisor today and, I guess, made my meaning pretty clear.

On an unrelated note, the Moveon.org people were out & about in Philly today, smearing John Roberts. I'm pretty sure one of them will hesitate before approaching any more people matching my description. I emptied a whole can on her ignorant butt.

125 posted on 07/21/2005 12:52:33 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: houeto

But, because of WHO the interviewers are, there's a serious risk of litigation as a result of an animal's attack.


126 posted on 07/21/2005 12:52:36 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Diplomat

I don't take well to anyone knocking on my door and disturbing me in my home. And under no uncertain terms, I let them know it.


127 posted on 07/21/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Strategerist
If the sole means of data collection by the government was an every 10 year headcount, there'd basically would be no ability for government to make a decision about anything.

Well then, why do they need to know what time I go to work?

128 posted on 07/21/2005 12:53:15 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: redbaiter
Tell him you are recording the call, that you live in a state where the permission of only one person is needed to record a call, and that you intend to post a recording of the conversation on the internet and that if he wishes to not be recorded that he can hang up.

Other options, after each question tell him you are hard of hearing, please repeat the question. Or you can get a CD that has background sounds like a lawn mower or jet aircraft, Maybe get some hospital sounds, tell him you're in the middle of sugery (the patient or the doctor). Say stuff like, "Nurse, he's bleeding way too much." or "oops, we were supposed to cut of the LEFT leg weren't we."

129 posted on 07/21/2005 12:53:35 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Going to war might mean terrorism, NOT going to war means slavery and death)
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To: redbaiter
Lie, lie, lie.

I always tell lies to people who pester me like that.

It's none of his business and you already told him so. Now it's time to have fun.

130 posted on 07/21/2005 12:54:42 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Rodney King

"The legal action is a $100 dollar fine, which is worth paying just to piss them off."

After you have paid the fine can they continue to bother you and start the whole process leading up to fining you again?


131 posted on 07/21/2005 12:55:34 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Strategerist
If the sole means of data collection by the government was an every 10 year headcount, there'd basically would be no ability for government to make a decision about anything.

Nonsense. They could purchase the results of market research conducted legitimately and voluntarily by any of a number of organizations.

132 posted on 07/21/2005 12:58:15 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: redbaiter

My brother has a habit - when an unwanted caller does manage to ask questions - he leads them into such convoluted, off-topic, irrelavent subjects that it's hard to keep up with him. He'll talk about TV programs where he "saw the same thing", or a friend "did just that", or "are you watching TV?" or a million other things - then the asks the caller the same questions. He goes on and on about how his job was that day, how sick the kinfolk have been, how many bugs got caught in the light shade last night, - such things as that. If one didn't know him, they'd think he was a little cracked on one side....


133 posted on 07/21/2005 1:01:43 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Rodney King
What legitimate use is that? The use is to help the government run un-constitutional programs

You nuckle dragging Neanderthals are really funny. Too bad you give real conservatism a bad name. Get it through your head there probably never was this grand period you think of when government only did was was enumerated. In fact there is a good chance that you live in a part of the US purchased unconstitutionally by Jefferson. We are never going back to pre-war (I mean pre-Civil War) government so get used to the real world. Or at least dont embarrass yourself.

134 posted on 07/21/2005 1:05:18 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
The information you give is not stored with your name nor shared with the IRS.

This is no longer true.

Never give census works more than your name and the number of people living in your household. That is all the Constitution reqires.

135 posted on 07/21/2005 1:05:42 PM PDT by zeugma (Democrats and muslims are varelse...)
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To: ErnBatavia

" I'd be wondering why someone claimed to be collecting census data in the year 2005."

Census does the biggies on the decades, smaller ones at halfeway (5 years) and even smaleer ones yearly. Someone else posted the law up thread.


136 posted on 07/21/2005 1:06:08 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Diplomat

They apparently prosecuted someone over it in 2000 and the constitutionality of the statute was upheld in a Texas court. Morales v Daley (2000, SD Tex) 116 F Supp 2d 801, affd (2001, CA5 Tex) 275 F3d 45, cert den (2002) 534 US 1135, 151 L Ed 2d 980, 122 S Ct 1079.

Seems wrong to me, but it looks like you ignore them at your risk.


137 posted on 07/21/2005 1:07:21 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: Strategerist
NASA is a good example. Do they feel the Apollo Moon Landings were unconstitutional? Not a scrap in the Constitution authorizing that or even hinting at authorizing that.

Actually the U.S. Contitution may or may not allow the feds to write laws to spend money on space exploration/etc. Here is the clause found in Article 1, Section 8:

The Congress shall have power ... To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

Personally, I interpret this narrowly to mean that the feds can create patent laws and spend money directly on space applications that have military uses. This is because other clauses allow them to finance the military. They should be required to stay out of the financing civilian space exploration, imo.

That said, and even though my mother was one of the very first female engineers ever employeed by NASA, I think NASA is a gigantic money pit that is long overdue to be scrapped from the federal budget.

138 posted on 07/21/2005 1:08:29 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: steve-b
Nonsense. They could purchase the results of market research conducted legitimately and voluntarily by any of a number of organizations

So you are taking the position of the Black Caucus that wanted the US to use sampling data rather than actual count via the cenus data because of an under count of blacks and other minorities who refused to give information to census workers.

No marketing research firm could provide that information, nor would they be willing to unless they had the force of law behind them. Many of these organizations get a lot of their raw data from the census.

139 posted on 07/21/2005 1:12:21 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Strategerist

All the better.


140 posted on 07/21/2005 1:13:30 PM PDT by sfimom ('Mommy why did they kill her cause she couldn't talk?' (my daughter age8))
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