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To: GOPJ
Good response.

Tell me how we are going to do this.


We have not been able to get the border closed, to Mexicans or terrorists; we have not ever heard it stated ... 'it is Arab men we are looking for as being terrorists', we have not gotten the judges out of the Senate that are needed. A token few only. We have not stopped CAFTA. Etc., etc., etc., Just who is going to set off these nukes? Oh, if it were truly an option.

An EMP is a great threat and nothing is being done to protect us on the national level. If our electrical systems go down from an EMP there will be no cars running, no communications working, except for a few military operations, probably the planes won't fly, no running water, unless one has their own well to hand pull or with a wind mill; no way to get delivery of food to the grocers, the banks will be down; computers won't work and almost everything has computer operation these days, and much much more in the way of failures of our current system ... in short a major disaster across the land.

We ignore this at our own peril. It is probably not 'if' there is to be a EMP; but 'when' will it happen?

It doesn't kill outright or destroy buildings ... just puts us back to the pre industrial level. There is known capability now.
84 posted on 07/21/2005 11:46:55 AM PDT by Countyline
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To: Countyline
An EMP is a great threat and nothing is being done to protect us on the national level.

You overestimate the resources of our enemies. These "jihadists" are having problems killing civilians in train stations, attacking America with an "EMP" weapon is B.S. at this time....

86 posted on 07/21/2005 11:58:06 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity)
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To: Countyline
How are we going to do what? Be more specific.

Tell me how we are going to do this.

90 posted on 07/21/2005 12:06:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: Countyline
An EMP is a great threat and nothing is being done to protect us on the national level.

Here's the sad news. We can't stop weapons from coming into this country. If we could stop a bomb we could also stop all drugs from coming into the country. Do you think that's possible? I don't believe we could stop all drugs from coming into LA, no less the whole country. If fact, since we have drug sniffing dogs, it's more likely we could stop all drugs before we could stop all weapons.

This isn't a little country like Israel. It's not small, it wasn't developed with enemies on all sides.

The sad truth is that defensive stances won't work. And that leaves the other, not as comfortable choices. One is MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It worked for many years with the old USSR - and it might work with the Arabs. We're limited to some extent with Arabs - we don't "get" them. That's a big problem. We always understood the Russians - they were chess players. And their leaders were goons. Typical totalitarians. AQ is that, but more. There's a "true believer" element in them that's unstable. And followers who are both zealots, unsophisticated, angry, and enthralled with cult charm. Not a great mix.

This is a very bad situation. Add into it that our real enemies (like North Korea) could arm AQ and wipe out two or more groups they could do without).

As to EMP's the best way around them is find cheap ways to start hardening our chips. It would be too costly to redo the ones in place, but there must be some stop gap measures that would work for some. Then replace them on a priority basis -- most crucial to keep the society running first. Power plants, grids, etc., are first. This war isn't easy. Lots of pitfalls.

99 posted on 07/21/2005 1:49:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: Countyline
An EMP is a great threat and nothing is being done to protect us on the national level.

Here's the sad news. We can't stop weapons from coming into this country. If we could stop a bomb we could also stop all drugs from coming into the country. Do you think that's possible? I don't believe we could stop all drugs from coming into LA, no less the whole country. If fact, since we have drug sniffing dogs, it's more likely we could stop all drugs before we could stop all weapons.

This isn't a little country like Israel. It's not small, it wasn't developed with enemies on all sides.

The sad truth is that defensive stances won't work. And that leaves the other, not as comfortable choices. One is MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It worked for many years with the old USSR - and it might work with the Arabs. We're limited to some extent with Arabs - we don't "get" them. That's a big problem. We always understood the Russians - they were chess players. And their leaders were goons. Typical totalitarians. AQ is that, but more. There's a "true believer" element in them that's unstable. And followers who are both zealots, unsophisticated, angry, and enthralled with cult charm. Not a great mix.

This is a very bad situation. Add into it that our real enemies (like North Korea) could arm AQ and wipe out two or more groups they could do without).

As to EMP's the best way around them is find cheap ways to start hardening our chips. It would be too costly to redo the ones in place, but there must be some stop gap measures that would work for some. Then replace them on a priority basis -- most crucial to keep the society running first. Power plants, grids, etc., are first. This war isn't easy. Lots of pitfalls.

Is that an answer to your question?

100 posted on 07/21/2005 1:50:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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