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Note to Wal-Mart. You don't have to screw over your people to make a buck.
1 posted on 07/20/2005 12:54:47 PM PDT by Ace of Spades
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To: Ace of Spades

SINEGAL, JAMES D
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COSTCO
6/30/2004
$25,000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte

SINEGAL, JANET L
MEDINA,WA 98039
N/A/VOLUNTEER
10/27/2004
$25,000
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SINEGAL, JAMES D
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte

SINEGAL, JAMES D
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP./PRESIDENT &
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/CEO
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Bellevue,WA 98004
none/homemaker
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COSTCO
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SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT & CEO
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$2,000
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Issaquah,WA 98027
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$2,000
Kerry, John

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT & CEO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT & CEO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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Kerry, John

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Lieberman, Joe

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Dodd, Chris

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Dodd, Chris

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Dodd, Chris

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/PRESIDENT & CEO
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$1,000
McCarthy, Carolyn

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/PRESIDENT/CEO
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$1,000
Barbieri, Donald K

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/PRESIDENT/CEO
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$1,000
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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$1,000
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT
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$1,000
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT
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$1,000
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SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT
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$1,000
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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$1,000
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HUNTS POINT,WA 98004
COSTCO/EXECUTIVE
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$1,000
Dicks, Norm

SINEGAL, JAMES D
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Boxer, Barbara

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Knowles, Tony

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
10/7/2003
$1,000
Daschle, Tom

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
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$1,000
Daschle, Tom

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/CEO
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Kennedy, Patrick J

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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/CEO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO WHOLESALE/CEO
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
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BELLEVUE,WA 98004
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BELLEVUE,WA 98004
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ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
8/11/2004
$500
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SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
6/3/2003
($1,000)
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
1/30/2004
($1,000)
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JAMES
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO
1/30/2004
($1,000)
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JANET
BELLEVUE,WA 98004
VOLUNTEER
1/30/2004
($1,000)
Murray, Patty

SINEGAL, JAMES D
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/CEO
4/4/2003
($2,000)
Edwards, John

SINEGAL, JAMES MR
ISSAQUAH,WA 98027
COSTCO/PRESIDENT & CEO
10/11/2004
($2,000)
Alben, Alex


2 posted on 07/20/2005 12:58:54 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Ace of Spades

The bulk food deal makes me have to eat like a horse before the stuff spoils. I usually buy food at the local grocery store.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 12:59:13 PM PDT by carumba
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To: Ace of Spades; A. Pole

Shrewd retailer ping.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 12:59:58 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Ace of Spades

the Ralph Lauren shirt you buy at Costco, is not the same Ralph Lauren shirt you buy at Ralph Lauren, or at Nordstrom. Sure, its got the same brand name label, but its a lower quality product designed for a store like costco.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 1:02:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Ace of Spades

Costco and WalMart do an entirely different kind of business. Costco only sells stuff that they can get at a huge discount. They don't carry everything, and the products they offer come and go. They don't have to operate on a tiny margin like full-service grocers -- including Wal Mart -- have to do.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 1:03:40 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Ace of Spades
Note to Wal-Mart. You don't have to screw over your people to make a buck.

Note to Ace. You don't have to be a union goon all your life.

12 posted on 07/20/2005 1:06:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Ace of Spades

Costco has repeatedly had local governments use eminent domain laws to acquire other private property so it can build a Costco store. In California, they convinced a town to remove a Church to build a Costco since it would generate more property tax...


18 posted on 07/20/2005 1:10:43 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: Ace of Spades
Note to Wal-Mart. You don't have to screw over your people to make a buck,

That's not the message here. They are two separate business models. With an average hourly wage of $17.00, how many first time job seekers get to work at Costco?

Wal-Mart pays a much lower average wage but provides huge opportunities for those entering the job market for the first time with limited skills.

They are just different. If Wal-Mart was so bad they would be experiencing problems attracting employees and then, maybe, their model would have to change. It's not happening though.

I also noticed that the author neglects to mention how many hourly employees at Costco have the opportunity to move into management. At Wal-Mart, 76% of all managers came from the ranks of hourly employees. No other company in the country offers that kind of upward mobility.

The pundits can elevate Costco above Wal-mart when Costco does $285 billion in annual sales, with 1.6 million employees, and has more than 5,000 stores around the world by utilizing this same model.

23 posted on 07/20/2005 1:16:42 PM PDT by Mase
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I agree. We are members of BJ's, Sam's and Costco and live near a Wal-Mart. I went through a brief time last year when I purchased at Wal-Mart. Just last week I saw that the apple juice was from China, but they communciated it in such a way that I could barely see that before I bought it. No more food and little else from Wal-Mart.

Costco, OTOH, is always so professional. If the lines are long, they open new ones. The employees are trained to resolve problems quickly. If they can't, there's always someone close who can. And they never hold up lines when that happens.

There merchandise is excellent. If we buy anything that they later discover is problematic, we get a letter telling us about it and how to handle the problem. Sam's is improving to compete with Costo, but it still doesn't have the quality of employeees as Costco and it shows. The new BJ's in our area has terrible employees and as a result, is almost always empty. We wonder how long it will last.

I agree with this article. When you pay employees and expect performance from them in return, you get it and customers notice it and return.


24 posted on 07/20/2005 1:17:07 PM PDT by twigs
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To: Ace of Spades

Agreed. I don't approve of Costco's political activity, but I do like how it pays it's workers well and still manages to make money.


34 posted on 07/20/2005 1:29:25 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Ace of Spades
There are a few reasons they’ll end up being more Wal-Mart-ish or they’ll slowly stagnate and decline.

First, every Costco I’ve ever been in is under 20 years old. I know a bunch that are under 10 years old. What that means is that they simply haven’t been around long enough for pension and h&w issues to significantly impact them. That will change, it’s just a matter of time.

Issue two is that in the case of their stores where unions represent their workers they’ve got an open ended obligation. I’m referring specifically to those stores that are/were represented by the IBT. Those employees in Central States and New England funds are going to be screwed. Meanwhile, Costco is legally obligated to make up current and future shortfalls for retirees/future retirees that never worked a single day for their company.

That’s one of the inherent evils of defined benefit and multi-employer pension plans.

Anyway at this point they aren’t impacted too heavily. Later on it will change and they’ll have to start cutting back. When they start consolidating positions you’ll have just what everyone else has – declining workforce (declining union membership) that has to float an ever increasing pension plan.

Over the next 5 – 10 years you’re going to see (especially regarding Teamsters) one of the biggest retirement waves there have ever been.

Also, over the next 15 – 30 years (or whenever) they’re going to have a changing of the guard. He’s pushing 70 now. He isn’t going to live forever. I have no idea as to their structure but you can bet their executive committee and/or board are going to have certain concerns regarding his replacement. They’ll be looking for someone that is more business oriented and not everyone’s friend.

If that doesn’t happen with his replacement, it will eventually. Bank on it.

Finally, they always recite the “happy employee equates to low turnover” mantra. That’s good AND bad.

Most jobs at a place like Costco are semi-skilled at best. Those aren’t really the sort of thing you want to provide as a “career” – especially if you’re paying a premium in the process (compared with the competition).

My experience has been that anytime you have someone performing a mundane, tedious, semi-skilled function they will be at their most productive somewhere between 18 months and three years. It’ll slowly decline to about years 12 – 15 and then significantly thereafter.

In that scenario you want people to turnover between years 3 and 5. If you can encourage them to move on around year 4 it’s the best of both worlds. They’ve made a premium and in exchange you’ve gotten the most productive work out of them. And – most pensions require five years to be vested so you dodge a bullet there.

But that’s not how it works. You’re paying a premium for someone to run around as floor washer or working a pallet jack. They have absolutely NO reason to go elsewhere to improve their lot in life because they’ve got it easy where they are.

So they decide to be a life-long item scanner or warehouseman. Each and every contract you’re going to have to sweeten the pot or they will damage or destroy your business. You’ll also have to deal with increasingly silly work rules.

That’s how it always happens. Just follow Costco over the coming years and you’ll see it with them too.

46 posted on 07/20/2005 1:42:01 PM PDT by Who dat?
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Note to Wal-Mart. You don't have to screw over your people to make a buck.

I hear HP is getting ready to put the screws to their employees. I think I'm going to do some of my own professional screwing and start buying the company printers and plotters elsewhere.

48 posted on 07/20/2005 1:43:03 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Ace of Spades

All I'd like to know is when did a company called "Kirkland" (the Costco brand) become what has got to be one of the largest, most product-diverse companies in the world?

From food, to electronics, to lawnmowers, to pants, to patio furniture...amazing, and I don't think I've ever read anything about them. Never even heard of them til about 2001. Maybe I will research them out of curiousity, now that I'm thinking about it.


57 posted on 07/20/2005 1:59:06 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: Ace of Spades
I read the whole article. While I don't like his politics, and I don't think he fully understands the people he donates to, I think he's a decent guy. His customers and employees are happy, but the Wallstreet analysts grumble. So what?

I love investing and Wallstreet, but there is no doubt in my mind that wage earners get the least benefit from our economy, mainly because the government screams inflation and puts the brakes on the economy every time the market favors labor. It's good to see a CEO that cares about his people as much as his shareholders, and only takes a modest salary for himself.

58 posted on 07/20/2005 1:59:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Ace of Spades
Note to Wal-Mart. You don't have to screw over your people to make a buck.

Note to Ace of Spades: Who's #1? That's all that matters.

70 posted on 07/20/2005 2:14:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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