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Why Homeschooling Continues to Grow
TCRecord ^ | 5/16/05 | Isabel Lyman

Posted on 07/20/2005 12:13:49 PM PDT by Little Bill

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To: Little Bill

What is "definning"; removing a fin?


121 posted on 07/23/2005 4:13:02 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Dianna; ...

122 posted on 07/23/2005 4:13:43 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: podkane
Personally, I don't want to be in a position to grade my kid. As a scientist, I'm concerned that schools aren't teaching basic math and science skills, but most of the parents I know are even less able to handle math. Homeschoolers have to be exceptional folks, and I applaud them. I don't see that as being a solution for everyone though...

Well said

123 posted on 07/23/2005 5:21:28 AM PDT by fml
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To: lilylangtree
"Wished I could have homeschooled my child. Unfortunately, single parents don't have a choice."

I was a single parent for over five years, and I had lots of choices beyond public school.

I chose to place my son in a private Christian school.(without expressing self-pitty)
124 posted on 07/23/2005 5:28:22 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: rockprof
"On the order of 90% + people who start home-schooling, abandon it within a year
You have a source for that statistic? I'm not sure I believe it."

I don't believe it, either. My wife and I homeschooled our children for years, and we know dozens of home schooled families. Neither of us knows a single family that abandoned homeschooling after they tried it.

I suspect that this 90% is the product of either an active imagination, or a public school advocate (with an active imagination).
125 posted on 07/23/2005 5:31:49 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Little Bill

As far as I'm concerned, government education is NOT an option. It's hard enough to raise up a child in the way he should go. Who needs the government trying to coax him in the wrong direction? So the gov't can demand my money and there's not much I can do about it. But they won't get my kid. No way! My child will not be taught by people proud to have no moral values.


126 posted on 07/23/2005 6:07:00 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: lilylangtree
***Wished I could have homeschooled my child. Unfortunately, single parents don't have a choice.***

I'm an area admin for a private ISP for homeschoolers. I have a few single parents schooling their children at home..quite successfully. :o) They have family and friends who help out so they're not the lone ranger.

127 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:17 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: newgeezer

"22.7% of all the statistics you'll see or hear in any given day are pulled out of thin air."

Some of that "air" isn't too thin, as it appears that the another 50% of the stats we see are pulled out of someone's a$$.


128 posted on 07/23/2005 7:16:41 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: negril

Start in vestigating and watching homeschool groups in your area. Depending on where you live there are many homeschool support groups that come together to provide those extra curricular things.


129 posted on 07/23/2005 7:19:18 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Little Bill

"scholar Kyle Williams has been a political columnist for WorldNetDaily.com"

I went and checked out the reviews for his book and the liberals had a good time writing nasty things about this young man.


130 posted on 07/23/2005 7:22:56 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: sitetest; SALChamps03
So I guess the laws have made a big difference since I was in school? I was just asking my husband this morning about his Electronics teacher. His Electronics teacher for his senior year was qualified to be the Auto Shop teacher. He knew nothing about Electronics. The students who were taking the course for a second year already knew more than the teacher. So, ended up with passes for a second lunch.
As for qualifications. I guess a lot of times we think of little children when we talk about homeschooling. What about high school students, who probably could self teach? I have been on some blogs where 16 year olds were asking information about the best types of curriculum, how to get started, etc., because they wanted to homeschool.
I remember back in high school thinking there really was no choice other than public or private schools (my parents couldn't afford the private school) unless you were pregnant or a juvenile delinquent (they had alternative schools). I did not do well in school - gradewise - because I was bored. Summer school and a correspondence course I passed with an A. I kept wondering why I couldn't just teach myself that way all the time. Yes, my mom is illiterate, but since the time I was old enough to read there isn't anything I haven't been able to teach myself if I want to.
131 posted on 07/23/2005 7:24:36 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: SALChamps03
Under federal law, all teachers must be highly qualified in their field. Otherwise, they cannot teach any longer. The process will be complete within a year. This is every state.

Sorry .. I don't buy it .. just because someone has the "qualifications" doesn't mean they are a good teacher. Also - unfortunately for teachers they just aren't allowed to teach.

Someone said earlier that there is so much wasted time in school - and there is.. honestly sit down and TALK to some kids about what it going on... it's really very sad. There's so much time spent on the whole concept of "social skills" that there is very little time left for the kids to learn.

132 posted on 07/23/2005 7:29:15 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Little Bill

We start first grade on August first. My son loves homeschooling, and so do I. I can't help but think that because he's not reading (other than a few sight words) yet, my son would already be carrying a lable in public school. However, reading is just not going to be his "natural" strong point. The kid's adding more than one numeral in his head, loves science, and begs almost daily for a chemistry set. (He's 6, by the way.)

Thanks for posting a great read!


133 posted on 07/23/2005 7:34:31 AM PDT by kimmie7 (The ACLU is a boil on the butt of humanity!)
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To: pamlet

It has taken me a lot of time and observation to learn each of my children's different learning styles. Teachers with many students do not have as much time to learn the learning styles of each individual student and tailor the curriculum to them. With only five students, this is an advantage I have.


134 posted on 07/23/2005 7:38:45 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: negril

Most homeschool groups have lots of activities. In fact, with ours there's the distinct possibility of having too many. Beyond that, there are the city and county sports associations. My son played t-ball this summer, and is enrolled in soccer for the fall.


135 posted on 07/23/2005 7:40:59 AM PDT by kimmie7 (The ACLU is a boil on the butt of humanity!)
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To: kimmie7

Have you seen this site?:http://www.starfall.com Also, you have a dog or cat? If so, when he starts sounding things out he might want to read to the pet. These are things that have helped my daughter. She is an auditory learner, so it has been more difficult for her to learn reading than for my oldest son. Yet, she can remember things in amazing detail.


136 posted on 07/23/2005 7:42:14 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Little Bill

Thanks for posting another wonderful article from Izzy! I had the good fortune to get to know her when I lived in CT.

We homeschooled my son back in the 70's and it was a wonderful experience. Unfortunately, I eventually had to put him in regular school when his Dad died but he already had been "formed" and didn't let any of the NEA scum teachers intimidate him.


137 posted on 07/23/2005 7:46:14 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Dear HungarianGypsy,

Homeschool at the high school level: Well, many homeschoolers choose to go back to more traditional settings for high school. It is a greater challenge to adequately homeschool once one gets past the elementary years. Unlike the caricatures and stereotypes foisted by the homeschool haters here at FR, the vast majority of homeschoolers aren't anti-schools. It is that we are anti-being-forced into cookie cutter views of education that may not work best for our own children, and we are anti-being-evaluated by entities that have failed in their own educational missions.

From our perspective, it is more reasonable that homeschoolers perform oversight over public school authorities than vice versa, in that homeschoolers nearly always succeed in their educational mission, while children in public school succeed educationally often in spite of their teachers, administrators, and higher-up NEA-goon muckety-mucks.

Be that as it may, homeschoolers can successfully pick and choose between the options available to them, and often go back and forth between their options, depending on the current needs of their children.

I know of a family with three children that homeschooled the older daughter through 5th grade, and then sent her off to a local public school in Montgomery Co, MD (a so-called good public school system). In retrospect, it was a mistake, because the local middle school wasn't that good. However, the high school was pretty good, and she is doing well there, coming up on her senior year. The family learned from this, and when the mother fell seriously ill, and could not continue homeschooling the middle child (the youngest isn't yet school-aged), they chose a nearby private Christian school, and are happy with that choice.

I've known other families that would homeschool a few years, use public or private schoos for a year or two, and then go back to homeschooling. Based on the needs of the child, rather than the needs of some bloated, overgrown, self-serving public school bureaucracy.

Anyway, back to high school and homeschooling, when we started homeschooling five years ago, we knew almost no one who homeschooled through high school. However, in those five short years, in our area, we've seen a dramatic increase in the number of families that decide to "go all the way." Available to us is a sort of "homeschool high school" where a number of families have pooled resources to provide for an informal schooling experience for their children. As well, the local community colleges and four year colleges are now welcoming of homeschoolers, especially once they're 16 years and older. Thus, homeschooling at the high school level becomes an issue of expanding resources and methodologies. And yes, it must be largely self-directed by the student. Thus, students who are unwilling to be self-starters may not be well-served by this approach. However, the proportion of self-starters among homeschooled students is high, so it is likely a worthwhile approach for most homeschooled students.

I notice this is already occuring in my own sixth grader's packaged curriculum (Calvert School). This year, it's his job to determine what are his assignments, and to work through them, rather than my wife, each day, spelling out his assignments in detail. My wife's job is more just to keep an eye on things to make sure he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, to teach the parts that need teaching, and to administer the tests, accept the assignments, and provide assistance where assistance is required. This year, our older son is much more on his own, much more responsible for his own education.

He was a little hesitant at first. But now, after a few weeks, he likes it a lot, especially in that he can set his own pace, and is now several days ahead of the curriculum schedule.

Our younger guy would like to homeschool through graduate school. ;-) I'm completing an advanced degree mostly on-line, and they view it that I'm homeschooling, too. Thus, the younger guy's question is, why can't I do that? Just stay home and go to college and grad school on-line? We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Anyway, yeah, your thoughts about homeschooling and high school are dead on. A child who is educated properly through the elementary years, who learns self-discipline and self-motivation, is an excellent candidate for a largely self-guided high school career.


sitetest


138 posted on 07/23/2005 8:02:58 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: kimmie7

A big not-yet-coffee-filled BUMP for my typo: lable = label.

Really. I'm just now starting a second cup...


139 posted on 07/23/2005 8:18:27 AM PDT by kimmie7 (The ACLU is a boil on the butt of humanity!)
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To: podkane; scripter
Personally, I don't want to be in a position to grade my kid.

my husband and i offer our children Classical Christian education in our homeschool... it's rigorous and exciting... and we do not do "grades." i am sure if you have children, you have helped them learn something along the way without actually grading them... but you still assess where they are...

you know if they have grasped a concept or a skill... you know if they need further assistance or if they simply need practice... though we as parents may not hand out report cards to our children, the truth is, we still assess them in many areas of their lives...

140 posted on 07/23/2005 8:36:46 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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