Dean: Immigrants are GOP's 2006 foil

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[potlatch]

I was sent something in an email today that described Hillarys transformation into a communist mindset, learned things I had never known before. If I can find the url I'll send it to you.

We here read this stuff all the time but the MSM won't talk about it and Hillary won't talk about it.

[judgeandjury]

dont trust this jihadist apologist america hater bayourod..he/she has been banned from FR before. bayourod lies in almost every post i've seen....he/she said that the tancredo crowd hates the military and america, that no one except for a few on FR care about the borders, and so on.

I appreciate your insight and advice.

[Stellar Dendrite]

"We here read this stuff all the time but the MSM won't talk about it and Hillary won't talk about it."

Hell, many in talk radio won't even talk about it.

[Salem]

"Not to excuse or rationalize anyone's beliefs that committing murder is something holy to do, but martyrdom is a highly honored state of grace in Christianity, as well. "

I'm a Christian and that's the first time I've heard that.

The Martyrdom of a Christian is a murder at the hands of an individual -- like a radical Muslim -- and not something that is taught to be laudable or sought after in the Bible.

Islamists, on the other hand, and the whole culture of death prevalent in Islamist dominated cultures is Koran based, and as we read reported regularly in Palestinian and Arab media watch organizations, still be aggressively taught today.

[Stellar Dendrite]

extension of #163,
the enemy within must be defined truthfully in order to save america and win the WOT. that means at every turn naming a commie a commie and a socialist a socialist.

/rant off ;)

[John Lenin]

(Washington, DC; 4/22/03) -- A new national opinion poll finds that Americans believe it is necessary to take a hard line against those who break U.S. immigration laws. While polls have confirmed for years that Americans want significant reductions in legal immigration levels, and vigorous enforcement of laws against illegal immigration, the RoperASW March poll finds that Americans are willing to hold illegal immigrants personally accountable for their actions, and to penalize those who do not obey immigration laws. On current legal immigration:

• More than three in four Americans want to see overall immigration levels reduced from the current one million per year;
• Two-thirds supporting fewer than 300,000 immigrants per year;

The poll, conducted by RoperASW on behalf of Negative Population Growth, and released by the United To Secure America coalition (www.secureamerica.info), found that illegal immigration is seen as a "serious problem" by 85 percent of American adults. These numbers are consistent with nearly all opinion polls conducted on these issues. However, in addition to stepped-up law enforcement, an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that it is necessary to impose tough penalties, including incarceration, on illegal aliens.

In addition to deportation, 83 percent of respondents also favored "mandatory detention and forfeiture of property" for people who are found to be living here illegally. Seventy percent said they would also support mandatory prison sentences for immigration law violations, in addition to property forfeiture and deportation.

The poll also found support among the American public for cooperation between state and local entities and the federal government in pursuit of meaningful immigration enforcment. The poll found:

• 88 percent support a law requiring state and local government agencies to notify the INS and local law enforcement when they determine "a person is here illegally, or has presented a false identification document."
• 85 percent support a law requiring local law enforcement and government agencies to "apprehend and turn over illegal immigrants" they encounter.

Americans Favor Tough Approach to Illegal Immigration

Scream Dean, the gift that keeps on giving.

[Stellar Dendrite]

"A new national opinion poll finds that Americans believe it is necessary to take a hard line against those who break U.S. immigration laws"

Those damn vigilantes!!!! ;)

[potlatch]

I developed hearing loss in my 30's and can't listen to the radio. All my friends here are avid radio listeners. I'm surprised that Rush, Hannity and many others are afraid to bring it up! Unless they fear Arkancide??

[potlatch]

If Hillary really runs for President I think the internet will be full of information about her. LOL, the internet is already full of it, we just have to get it out to the general population who are clueless!

[Happy2BMe]

Thanks for the link on that good source.

The numbers of Americans since that study was conducted (2 years ago) has risen dramatically since then.

[potlatch]

Sorry, I missed your post amid all the pings, LOL. I like to hear his rants, he sounds like a maniac. Well why not, I think he is one!

[BIRDS]

Well, now I'm confused about several of these points.

Yes, I am "lily white" and, yes, I'm sure about that, and, no, I don't agree that "lumping all" humans of any racial type into deportation requirements is necessary (nor even representational of sanity), but, who is doing that?

Whoever wrote those three points seems as guilty of prejudice as anyone else. I realize that there are some people in some areas of our country who insist that "all" one type of human are 'bad' or "all" one type of people are good based upon racial characteristics, but I think that sort of generalized foolishness is far more rare and unusual than the writer opines it is.

However, the biggest problem of illegal immigration as it affects the U.S. is affirmed time and time again as originating in Mexico and being fostered by Mexican government and culture. I do not demean "all Mexicans" on a racial level (nor never have) but I do identify the problem of illegal immigration as being largely perpetuated and sustained by Mexico first, China second and then Pakistan and the Middle East thirdly. From what I've read, that's what the stats support.

However, I don't at this point understand the points raised, other than those first three points quoted are oddly evocative of a bunch of skewered opinions, not based upon facts, mostly infiltrated with racial terminology.

Immigration and illegal immigration isn't a racial issue but is a human problem with certain identifiable human cultures being responsible for the ongoing problem. Something many continue to miss is that "Mexican" is not a race, is not an identified human racial type; thus, it's a misnomer to continue to argue, as some do, that by identifying Mexico as a problematic culture and nation/government in this problem of illegal immigration is to engage in 'racist' statements.

It's about human behaviors, and some nations and other cultures foster illegal immigration and Mexico is one of those that does.

However, as to me, I'm, yes, "lily white" and sure about it not that it's anyone's business.

And I don't think it's so unusual by those of us who are, other than the writer seems to reveal that her known human universe is largely populated by mixed racial types. Such that she opines that to be "lily white" as you interpret she writes is unusual. It just depends upon where you reside in the U.S. as to what racial types exist in what areas and neighborhoods. The writer obviously has limited exposure to a variety of experiences.

[BIRDS]

"3. The few remaining American citizens who claim to be of "pure white" descent..."
Who CLAIM TO BE "'pure white' descent..."?? That whole statement is ludicrous. You're not of any "descent" as to being "pure white" and being a racial type is not a charade, a masquerede except but by some in Black and Hispanic peoples who try to pass as being "white" for whatever skewered reasons. I think this points out the fact that racism is hugely present among many races and not so much a problem or presence by Caucasians as those racial types try to make it out to be. That third point especially (quoted) points that out, and that is, from the perception of someone with mixed racial experiences and perspectives, it's a rare thing for anyone to be, genuinely, "all white" in today's United States. And my point is, no, it is not. But it is to someone who'se concerned with a racial perspective... I'm quite sure about my ancestry and have never been asked to substantiate (or "prove") that my 'whiteness' is in fact, "all white." It's a stupid argument, in fact, but in my case, quite evident and easily proven. Not that, again, it's anyone's business and I find the entire taunt to be very offensive (that to be "all white" is rare and most who appear as such are pretending about it, whatever). It's a very sadly foolish statement. But it does point out the issue of racism present in other racial types other than us Caucasians. The only time this issue of race ever comes up is in discussions with asians, blacks and hispanics, to make a point here, many of whom marry Caucasians for reasons including status among their own racial communities. I find all that bleaching and redding of the hair by many races who are obviously not Caucasian to be indicative of a sort of jealousy of what 'white' is...among other things. I really find this whole issue offensive...

[BIRDS]

Dean's major support and heat comes from homosexuals and those who associate with homosexuality as some sort of vigilante movement (the 'right' to be homosexual, that 'rights' are assigned based upon sexual behaviors, etc.)...

Note Dean's references to states "turning purple" and his supporters clapping in glee...Dean's entire funding and intense support is by gay people, and it's far more organized a movement than many people recognize...unless you attend one of their meetings or "parties" and see what the reality of the Dean support is all about.

Dean was named to head the DNC Party because the huge dollars provided to them by the gay movement...moveon.org is among those in veiled presence. My point is that Dean represents that 'wing' of the Democratic Party and they appear to be relying on Hillary Clinton and Bill to bring up the other aspects. But Dean's support is the gay community, never doubt that.

[hispanarepublicana]

*sigh* I've said repeatedly that I was referring to the miniscule minority of Americans who frequent sites like stormfront.org -- the "neo-Nazis". I'd encourage you to lurk for a few moments over there and you'll learn very quickly that you ARE IN NO WAY associated with those I was referring to in #3.
As for #1 and #2, I stand by those statements.

[KC_Conspirator]

You are exactly right. Don't forget about the Hollywood mafia continuing to send money as well.

Dean also appeals to academic leftists who hate America. Alot of 60's holdovers. RDDB's.

[blackie]

"I think she is a lady...given the spelling"

You're right, thanks ~ I just checked her profile page.

Sorry about that hispanarepublicana. ;)

[wardaddy]

tu tu bem

[hispanarepublicana]

that's okay; don't worry about it.

[normy]

The Republicans don't need to kiss any butt. They need to continue on the basis of policy. Hispanics will vote like most Americans, based on policy.

The truth is that Dean, like most liberals, sees all Hispanics as illegals or at the very least "the help".

I live in Texas and there has always been the hispanic guy, your buddy you play ball with, drink beer with, hang out with, just a friend and then there is your "wetback' or illegal. Illegals stand at the beer store and wait for a contractor to pick them up. The American whos ancestors were from Mexico drive to work, do their job and go about everyday work like whites and blacks and everyone else.

The Dems I don't think understand this and see all hispanic people as the "beer store" guys and it just isn't true. I have a mexican (small m) friend who has a Texas flag tattooed on his arm and has a heavier drawl than most of my other friends. This is where the Republicans win. No one likes to be pandered too and mexicans have very conservative leanings and will look through Deans crap.