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Mozilla: IE 7 to boost Firefox growth
CNet News.com ^ | 7/19/2005 | Ingrid Marson

Posted on 07/19/2005 11:13:35 AM PDT by Mike Bates

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To: frogjerk

I asked for a reference, not some posting from Joe Random User asserting a problem with his PC. Do you have specific information that MS Toolbar is spyware or not?


41 posted on 07/20/2005 1:47:04 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Sthitch

The memory leak is fixed in all nightly builds, and in Deer Park Alphas 1 and 2. It's been fixed for about 6 weeks now.


42 posted on 07/22/2005 1:21:00 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Terpfen

Thanks,
Then I will give it another try.


43 posted on 07/22/2005 4:37:30 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: oldcomputerguy
Can anyone explain any advantages of XP over win2k?

I use both, and XP is more stable and has better compatibility than 2000.

44 posted on 07/22/2005 4:55:39 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: frogjerk
You mean I have to download spyware to get tabbed browsing with IE? :(

Nope: Avant Browser, a tabbed browser with Flash Filter, Popup Blocker, Cleaner and Web Search

Although it's described as if it's a brand new browser, Avant is actually a "wrapper" around Internet Explorer, but it's a *damned* good one. It makes use of all of IE's good points, and modifies or "firewalls" IE's bad points.

*Everyone* I have had try Avant has become an instant convert, of the "from my cold dead hands" variety. It's great.

It has all of my IE "wish list" items, including a "memory" of what web pages are open. Have you ever had your computer crash or freeze up, and lost the web pages you had open, so that you had to hunt them down again, or lost them entirely because you forgot how you had surfed to them? Avant remembers where you were, and when you re-open the browser it gives you the option to automatically re-open all the pages you were at.

Another great feature is "Groups", which are like clusters of bookmarks you can define. When you open a group, *bam*, all the pages in that group open on separate tabs. So for example if you have five "news" pages you like to check, you can just open them all with a single mouse click and then use the tabs to check each one.

47 posted on 07/22/2005 5:09:53 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: konaice
tabbed browsing.

i sometimes have 20 tabs open which i use to classify, order and categorize things i am working on, particularly technical forum issues

once you use more than one tab, it is *very* difficult to go back...

48 posted on 07/22/2005 5:23:39 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: oldcomputerguy
Windows XP is just Windows 2000 made to work like Windows ME so people will in exasperation be forced to upgrade to Longhorn.

NOBODY that I know here at work that runs Windows XP likes it better than Windows 2000. Several folks re-installed 2000 after a spell of using the "latest and greatest". I have XP on my Thinkpad and hate it so much (hint - it noisily hits the hard disk every 20 seconds on my T23 even if I'm doing NOTHING AT ALL -- Grrrr) I'm about to install pure Linux on it (usually I dual boot), particularly Fedora Core 4 that has the now excellent Open Office release 2, which is quite good...

49 posted on 07/22/2005 5:32:38 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Mike Bates

I presume that IE 7.0 will NOT run on Win9x systems?


50 posted on 07/22/2005 5:33:48 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: Kewlhand`tek

"It will go crazy with PDFs..."

Drives me nuts.


51 posted on 07/22/2005 5:41:23 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: Athanasius_ROCKS

hehehe, I don't have that problem either I use... something that is very DEAD, or so IBM says.... OS/2!!, just do the spy/adware on the wife/kid's xp computer


52 posted on 07/22/2005 5:42:55 AM PDT by markman46
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To: chilepepper
"it noisily hits the hard disk every 20 seconds"

Try turning Auto-Update off, if you have it enabled, to see if it changes. It may be a Network Services executable.

I agree about liking Win2k far better than XP. Whatever features XP has over Win2k, I don"t seem to need at all. I will probably dump my XP for Win2k too. Rather than be forced to upgrade, it may be preferable to downgrade.

53 posted on 07/22/2005 9:01:42 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: Athanasius_ROCKS
He gave you the reference, and gave you two links.

I'm sure that he could come up with a bunch more crappy links from random Web locations -- but wouldn't make them any more credible.
54 posted on 07/22/2005 9:10:45 AM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: chilepepper

Like I said, Mozilla does everything firefox does and does it faster. That Includes tabbed browsing.


55 posted on 07/22/2005 10:24:35 AM PDT by konaice
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To: oldcomputerguy
believe me, i'm pretty sure i've done ALL of that (but thanks much for the suggestion, perhaps it got turned on again by mistake), and checked for viruses too.

i turned off ALL the services and it is a *little* bit better when things are completely idle, but as soon as any programs start up, the periodic disk access starts agaaaaain.

the culprit is 'lsass.exe' or somesuch. i've spend many, many hours on various forums and have tried everything that was suggested (autoindexing, this service off, that service off, and the list goes on and on)

what upsets me the most is that what microsoft *claims* lsass.exe is doing and what it is actually doing are quite different. it is clearly looking over the network for something even though the service it is supposed to be for is shut completely off...

56 posted on 07/22/2005 6:11:24 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper

LSASS.exe appears to be a Local Security Authentication Server used in the login process. I am not a s/w expert but I sure would want to get to the bottom of why it was doing that. It is a process involved in several worms including Sassar and MyDoom. It should only be running out of the System32 folder.

Do you have SP2?

I expect all I might say is old ground for you but I did find this.
http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/sasser.mspx

In the virus versions the filename may be changed from lower case "EL" which is normal to upper case "EYE" or which looks the same.

I also found this:

At random encounters (about at least once in 20 minutes, but mostly every 5 minutes) it keeps my system BUSY by drawing 80% CPU load on a PIII-866 running XP PRO. That makes me angry, because that interrupts file transfer for 1-3 minutes (CPU can`t handle I/O's in that time). Sometimes i can set task priority to LOW (that helps), but most times i get an "access denied". I think, this is still part of the XP OS, but IT SUXXX


And this:


I had what appeared to be the Sasser Worm, but my system checked out clean. Norton, McAfee, et.al. all gave my system a clean bill of health. After a week and a half, of everything from doing a system restore to an earlier date to doing a Windows repair, I found that my local c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file was very obsolete. There is no good reason to have something other than the default (localhost definition) (127.0.0.1???)when on a network. Restoring the file to factory values, cleared up my lsass.exe, userinit.exe, and svchost.exe abort issues as I connected to the correct network servers.

The above may or may not apply but I would certainly keep looking. The best option would be to see if another system similar to your is doing the same thing. I will check mine but I am at SP1 on XP.


57 posted on 07/23/2005 5:41:38 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: Nat Turner
They stick with 2000 because they have custom apps that WILL NOT work in XP (unless they pay some programmers to recode and recompile it)Its easier to just roll-back the new PC's

I just got upgraded gtom win2k to XP a week ago, and I noticed that MySQL stopped working. I'll have to get around to downloading and installing an XP version

58 posted on 07/23/2005 5:49:42 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: oldcomputerguy
interesting side effects... i also suspected a virus and had the system re-installed clean along w/ McAfee, but the problem seems to persist, may have well always been there in some form and somehow i didn't notice it before...

a friend has W2000 on the same model thinkpad and i'm seriously thinking about using that + Fedora 4 dual booted. appreciate you comments on the XP strangeness...

59 posted on 07/23/2005 5:51:40 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper

This might give you some insight. It is for NT but the base platform is similar:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windowsnt/4/workstation/reskit/en-us/01art.mspx

I found the correct name for the process is Local Security Administration Subsystem


60 posted on 07/23/2005 5:57:20 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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