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Mozilla: IE 7 to boost Firefox growth
CNet News.com ^ | 7/19/2005 | Ingrid Marson

Posted on 07/19/2005 11:13:35 AM PDT by Mike Bates

The Mozilla Foundation is expecting to see a surge in interest in the Firefox browser from enterprise users once Microsoft launches Internet Explorer 7 next year.

IE 7, which will be available in beta this summer, will not be available to users of Windows 2000.

Asa Dotzler, the community coordinator at the Mozilla Foundation, said Tuesday that he hopes to attract many corporate Windows 2000 users to the Firefox browser, since they will be unable to take advantage of the improvements in IE 7.

"We have high hopes that we'll do better and better in (the enterprise) space with Windows 2000 users," Dotzler said. "We're excited about Microsoft launching IE 7--it will remind a lot of people that if they want better features they have to spend hundreds of dollars upgrading" to Windows XP.

Nearly half of all Windows-based business desktops are still using Windows 2000, according to a recent survey by AssetMetrix, meaning that there is a big market for the Mozilla Foundation to tap into.

Firefox 1.1, which is due for release this month, will include a range of features to encourage companies to migrate to the open-source browser, including an auto-update and preference locking feature.

The auto-update system, which Dotzler described as a "world-class update system," will allow users to automatically install patches and updates, rather than needing to reinstall Firefox each time an update is released. Version 1.1 will also include improved tools to lock down browser preferences, he said.

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I have no problems with the memory leaks either. It will go crazy with PDFs but if I wait a while after closing it, it clears up.


21 posted on 07/19/2005 12:13:27 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: konaice
Nearly half of all Windows-based business desktops are still using Windows 2000, What world are they getting their statistics from?


Its easy, many firms do a wipe and roll back. They get a new XP machine, wipe the hard drive and

then install Win 2K. They stick with 2000 because they

have custom apps that WILL NOT work in XP (unless they

pay some programmers to recode and recompile it)Its

easier to just roll-back the new PC's

22 posted on 07/19/2005 12:30:57 PM PDT by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: FastCoyote

Good for you. the Company I work for has approx 150 employees and except for the 10-20 everyone else has winxp. I have xp,w2k w98 linux and os/2 at home. and I use firefox on all of them


23 posted on 07/19/2005 12:32:42 PM PDT by markman46
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To: oldcomputerguy
Can anyone explain any advantages of XP over win2k? I just don't see them at all.

I have used both and I can't see much difference, except that when you buy a new computer XP is already installed.

24 posted on 07/19/2005 12:35:41 PM PDT by markman46
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To: Kewlhand`tek

PDFs are the only area where I have run into snags. Generally, if you just walk away and leave your computer alone for a while, it will eventually work. If you get frustrated and start banging on the keyboard, you will probably end up re-booting.


25 posted on 07/19/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: oldcomputerguy

XP is pretty!


26 posted on 07/19/2005 1:20:03 PM PDT by jayef
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To: Mike Bates

I've got 1.0.4 Firefox. Does anybody know how to change the default email client ?


27 posted on 07/19/2005 1:56:26 PM PDT by UB355
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To: frogjerk
Tabbed Browsing with IE
28 posted on 07/19/2005 5:10:46 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000
Tabbed Browsing with IE

You mean I have to download spyware to get tabbed browsing with IE? :(

29 posted on 07/19/2005 5:20:26 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
You mean I have to download spyware to get tabbed browsing with IE? :(

MSN Toolbar is spyware? Reference?
30 posted on 07/19/2005 5:47:10 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000
http://www.spywaredata.com/spyware/malware/msntb.dll.php
31 posted on 07/19/2005 7:17:26 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Bush2000
Even Microsoft thinks it is spyware:

http://www.1-script.com/forums/Microsoft-Aitispyware-breaks-MSN-toolbar-as-spyware-article454-11.htm

Microsoft Aitispyware breaks MSN toolbar as spyware  	PCUser32  	06-20-2005
`--> Re: Microsoft Aitispyware breaks MSN too .. 	Charles Opperma ..	06-20-2005
 Microsoft Aitispyware breaks MSN toolbar as spyware 		Reply Send to a Friend   Print      	
	 
	


Running XP pro, sp2
Just installed MSN toolbar
but after scheduled Microsoft Antispyware scan
it no longer works and neither does Internet Explorer
I managed to get IE working gain by un-installing the MSN
toolbar via the add remove control panel
Scan history shows something called 'Shopathome' as being
removed which I assume is necessary for MSN toolbar to
function.

I just find it strange that Microsoft's MSN toolbar is
spyware when Microsoft claims to be fighting against such
software..

anyone else have this experience

32 posted on 07/19/2005 7:20:34 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
Virtually every business I know is using XP, since you can't buy a machine with anything else on it.

Many large corporations with thousands upon thousands of users are not using XP.

Well, not if you're buying a consumer grade or business machines in small lots with the OEM software on them... However, when you've got a client who buys several hundred systems on a single PO, and you get them imaged from the factory with all your applications already loaded, you can pretty much get what ever operating system you want. We've got one client who's decided to skip XP altoghter, and haven't decided if they're going to migrate to Longhorn. We've got another client with some 8000 users who is just finishing their migration to WinXP.

There are a lot of systems out there that still have Win2K on them.

Mark

33 posted on 07/19/2005 7:26:25 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: oldcomputerguy

XP keeps you out of .dll he!!. seriesly.


34 posted on 07/19/2005 7:27:05 PM PDT by hobson
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To: markman46

" I can't see much difference"

How about tens of thousands of more files to plow through for virus checking in XP? For what is my question?


35 posted on 07/20/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: hobson
"XP keeps you out of .dll he!!. seriously.

I have no idea what that means actually. Maybe you could enlarge on it?
36 posted on 07/20/2005 8:43:33 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy

I don't think there are any advantages over w2k and xp, your right about the 1000's of files the AV goes through not to mention what the spybot and adware check. as for ease of use there is no difference.


37 posted on 07/20/2005 8:47:51 AM PDT by markman46
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To: markman46
"as for ease of use there is no difference."

Yes and I would say, in my case, ease of use is worse with XP. It takes longer to boot and longer to do routine spyware maintenance. I did speed it up getting rid of some Dell crap that was preloaded.

I have a work system of .8 Ghz running Win2k and a home system of 2.8Ghz running XP home and they run the same functional speed! I can only imagine how fast my home system would run if I dumped XP altogether and loaded Win2k on it. I have been thinking more and more about doing just that.
38 posted on 07/20/2005 8:55:31 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy
Well, I know just enough to be dangerous but I'll give it a try. DLL's are objects/libraries that programs use to perform different functions. When you install a program these objects/libraries are registered so that a program can find them when they're needed. If a program vendor provides patches or updates to software sometimes the new dll interface is not backwards compatible and that's how you get into .dll he!!. Trying to unravel the mess is a nightmare.

XP handles dll registration in such a way that you are MUCH LESS likely to have this problem. I could give you more details but I need to ask the other half of my brain (my husband) how to explain it properly.
39 posted on 07/20/2005 11:46:11 AM PDT by hobson
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To: hobson

"I could give you more details"

Thats close enough, thanks.


40 posted on 07/20/2005 12:25:30 PM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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