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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 8
Various News Outlets | 7/19/05

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; equusearch; joran; kalpoes; natalee; nataleeholloway; vandersloots
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To: TAquinas

Disregard this theory of mine.

I have read the post for the hospitalizations.


421 posted on 07/19/2005 8:12:00 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences. Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

they certainly did - but they are 18 - off to college this fall.


422 posted on 07/19/2005 8:12:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jrabbit

"Who the heck is Jason?"

Sorry. Meant Joran.


423 posted on 07/19/2005 8:14:41 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences. Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: Jrabbit

" I think Natalee thought she was getting in one for a ride back to the HI."

Me too........there is no evidence or witness statements that really indicate otherwise......in fact it is zilch except for the bit in the casino at the Hilton between the concert at the beach and later at C & C's.....more like selection and stalking, I think.


424 posted on 07/19/2005 8:15:15 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat

They have something that has DNA on it - it could be anything - semen from inside the car (possibly mixed with Natalee's DNA if she was raped in the car) - It is possible that the condoms or even the panties they found (and they have found more than just one pair of panties) may be Natalee's or have natalee's DNA on them as well as someone elses DNA and they have to figure out who's DNA it is.

Wouldn't it be interesting (and awful) if they did find something of Natalee's and they found DNA from all 4 of them on it? (if so this surely would not fit in with the Kalpoe story that they left them on the beach)

Transfer DNA from Natalee and someone else could have been found in the back of one of the VDS cars.

Maybe they found an empty drink bottle or can with a trace of Roofies and someone's DNA on the can.

It looks like they are trying to build a case against all or one of these boys because they have something that no one in the public eye knows about yet.


425 posted on 07/19/2005 8:16:00 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: Jrabbit

I saw a question like this over at SM earlier..

Since Paul Van Der Sloot name on his Dutch bith certificate is Paulus does that mean Joran's BC reads Joranus?


426 posted on 07/19/2005 8:17:02 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: presently no screen name
18 years old is not a child.

I think these are pretty sheltered kids. 18 for me was half a lifetime ago, but I was very sheltered. I went to an incredibly conservative college in Lynchburg, VA and never thought twice about just introducing myself. I can't imagine adding alcohol in the mix at that age. I don't think it would take much for any of them to be in over their heads in pretty short order. I don't know that they are really trying to protect themselves as much as protecting Natalee and her family.

427 posted on 07/19/2005 8:17:08 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Fritzy; TexKat

thank for keeping me in the loop..and for your generous leadership



One more time!


428 posted on 07/19/2005 8:17:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: truthluva
So...what could they have that would require a DNA comparison?

Maybe someone used their teeth to tear that duct tape.

429 posted on 07/19/2005 8:18:46 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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To: truthluva

ROFL

Very good question!


430 posted on 07/19/2005 8:18:48 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Sunshine55

TexKat made a good point. The original request for DNA came on Thursday, yet the tape wasn't found until Sunday. They must have something else.


431 posted on 07/19/2005 8:20:30 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: presently no screen name

Thank you presently no screen name.


432 posted on 07/19/2005 8:20:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief
IMO, the students are less than forthcoming.

They are...one can only presume they are hiding their own misbehavior. But one would also imagine they would drop the act when a friend's life was hanging in the balance. Vy strange behavior.

433 posted on 07/19/2005 8:22:29 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("I did not say that...I am not here.")
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To: justche

I agree about sheltered vs. running the streets.

However, Beth did speak to Natalee about her concerns before she left. I believe she went down there with her eyes open. It could have happened to a 25 year old. No matter how much you are prepared, when something happens, how prepared are you really. All you need is one Joran in the midst.


434 posted on 07/19/2005 8:24:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Thanks... the time line just destroyed my thought about something on the tapes... I think someone said that the Authorities may have a statement tomorrow (?) ..
See you all tomorrow.. it is "get ready for tomorrow" and off to sleep..
Blessings...
435 posted on 07/19/2005 8:26:16 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Fritzy

good nite, fritzy.


436 posted on 07/19/2005 8:27:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Thanks... the time line just destroyed my thought about something on the tapes... I think someone said that the Authorities may have a statement tomorrow (?) ..
See you all tomorrow.. it is "get ready for tomorrow" and off to sleep..
Blessings...
437 posted on 07/19/2005 8:28:11 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: TexKat

Even though AVDS claims JVDS does not smoke. It could be that he does and they may have found some cigarette butts near that make-shift grave that they pulled some DNA from. PVDS may smoke also. Again it would be amazing if they found one of these boys DNA on something near an area like that make shift grave site. (like a tossed bottle of water or beverage and/or cigarette butts)

You know it took someone quite some time to dig a hole that big, even if they can't prove Natalee was in that hole but if they found DNA transfer on something near that hole of one of the VDS or Kalpoes it sure would look bad for them.


438 posted on 07/19/2005 8:31:27 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: Fritzy

Well it's past my bedtime too. Work tomorrow. Dark Side, not funny posts tomorrow. My co-workers think I'm nuts laughing at my desk. So keep it to a minimum please.


439 posted on 07/19/2005 8:31:48 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: presently no screen name

Agreed about just one sociopath coming into your path.


440 posted on 07/19/2005 8:31:59 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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