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To: seamole
If Clement gets on the Court and votes to uphold Roe, I will have to concede that the plan to vote Republican to stop abortion has failed. And that means I won't be voting Republican again.

That makes millions of us. It would be counterproductive for pro-lifers to vote Republican if Bush breaks his promise on this issue. It would waste of time, money and effort.

469 posted on 07/19/2005 10:40:15 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
If Clement gets on the Court and votes to uphold Roe, I will have to concede that the plan to vote Republican to stop abortion has failed. And that means I won't be voting Republican again.

Overturning Roe wouldn't stop abortion or make it illegal either.

485 posted on 07/19/2005 10:44:42 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Ol' Sparky

I understand your point of view, but don't get ahead of yourself. Your statement had two big IFs:

1. If its Clement
2. If she turns out to be a moderate

Right now we don't know if number 1 is correct...and we are a long time for judging if 2 is correct.


487 posted on 07/19/2005 10:45:40 AM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: Ol' Sparky

Like I said, no guts no glory. It will be a while before we know where Clement actually stands with SCOTUS rulings, but if the Democrats had the chutzpah to nominate an ACLU vermin like Ginsburg and get her through without a contest, why the defeatism on our side of the aisle when it comes to nominating choices that reflect conservative values?

The Dems took advantage of our stupidity and used their politcal currency to get Breyer and Ginsburg on the Court. The tepid pussyfooting of the GOP amazes me to no end.


501 posted on 07/19/2005 10:48:23 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Ol' Sparky; seamole
To: seamole If Clement gets on the Court and votes to uphold Roe, I will have to concede that the plan to vote Republican to stop abortion has failed. And that means I won't be voting Republican again.

Do you really think if Roe was overturned that abortion would become illegal?

That's NOT what would happen, believe me I live in CA, it was legal before Roe and would be after. You can't blame Republicans for that.

How would she stand on the Kelo case, is that of any importance to you?

504 posted on 07/19/2005 10:49:03 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Ol' Sparky; seamole

Well, I agree with your sentiment, but respectfully disagree about the "millions." The 2008 election, like the previous 54 or 55 or so (excluding Duh Dole's 1996 nomination fix) and like the elections in 2024 or 2048, will be "the most important election of our lifetime." Any excuse for the principle-be-damned crowd to rationalize one more vote.


518 posted on 07/19/2005 10:52:25 AM PDT by jammer
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