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INSULT JUROR FINED (called gunpoint car-jacking defendant a "scumbag")
NY POST ^ | July 19, 2005 | LAURA ITALIANO, Gregg Birnbaum

Posted on 07/19/2005 6:31:15 AM PDT by Liz


STEPHEN CARUSO $1G for ripping carjacker.

......During jury selection, never announce that you think the defendant is "a scumbag."

A prospective juror who dropped the vulgar phrase — outraging the trial judge — was ordered to pay a $1,000 fine for contempt of court yesterday.

Financial analyst Stephen Caruso, 27, ignited the juror furor by taking one look at the defendant in a Harlem gunpoint carjacking and then telling the judge he couldn't be objective, since he'd been robbed at gunpoint three times himself.

"I'm already looking at him," Caruso had told the judge of the defendant. "I think he is a scumbag."

The crook in question, Robert Sanford, 58, of East Harlem, wound up being convicted a week later on charges of kidnapping in the second degree, after a jury unanimously found that he'd held a realistic-looking BB gun to the head of a driver in Harlem, demanding money and forcing the terrified victim to drive him around.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice William Wetzel.....(called) the would-be juror's outburst "an insulting, and demeaning invective spewed at a defendant." The comment turned the court into "some kind of circus," and risked tainting the jury pool against the defendant, thereby depriving him of his right to a fair trial.....

The judge had mulled tossing Caruso in jail for 30 days — but leveled the fine after Caruso apologized.

Caruso explained to the judge that being asked to sit in judgment of an accused gunpoint-carjacker had "brought back some emotional memories."

Later, Caruso's lawyer insisted that his client had meant only to inform the judge of his inability to be fair to the defendant......."I think that the word 'scumbag' has evolved in the past 10, 15 years," said the lawyer, Norman Steiner. "It's not a profanity anymore."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackrobedidiots; scumbag
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1 posted on 07/19/2005 6:31:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Well, the carjacker IS a scumbag. And worse.


2 posted on 07/19/2005 6:33:13 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Liz

Was it ever a profanity?


3 posted on 07/19/2005 6:34:39 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Liz
Financial analyst Stephen Caruso, 27, ignited the juror furor by taking one look at the defendant in a Harlem gunpoint carjacking and then telling the judge he couldn't be objective, since he'd been robbed at gunpoint three times himself.

Make that four times robbed at gunpoint. This time for a thousand bucks...

4 posted on 07/19/2005 6:35:42 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: prion

Let me add that I think the judge is a scumbag in this case. He was ready to put the juror in jail?? How idiotic. Heaven forbid we offend the thugs among us!


5 posted on 07/19/2005 6:36:18 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: prion
Was [scumbag] ever a profanity?

Yes. Ever since it's been associated with the word "Clinton." (Interchangeable, I know.)

6 posted on 07/19/2005 6:36:32 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: prion

"IT has evolved. It used to be much worse." ?? When, on the playground in 6th grade??? Is it one of the words you cannot say on the radio? In a movie? This guy should SUE the judge. And should run for NY Gov. I'll work for him.


7 posted on 07/19/2005 6:36:49 AM PDT by bboop
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To: Liz
Caruso explained to the judge that being asked to sit in judgment of an accused gunpoint-carjacker had "brought back some emotional memories." Later, Caruso's lawyer insisted that his client had meant only to inform the judge of his inability to be fair to the defendant......."I think that the word 'scumbag' has evolved in the past 10, 15 years," said the lawyer, Norman Steiner. "It's not a profanity anymore."

It should be a profanity, but that is not the issue. I think the judge should excuse the man's comments due to the fact he has been threatened many times by the same type of criminal as the defendant.

It was a totally gut reaction comment based on pure emotion and horrible experiences. And I'm sure the man meant it but the judge has to allow this man to be human after all.

8 posted on 07/19/2005 6:36:58 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: gridlock

Heheh.....that nails it, alright.


9 posted on 07/19/2005 6:37:10 AM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: prion

Contempt of court is soley at the judge's discression as the courtroom is their kingdom.


10 posted on 07/19/2005 6:37:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Liz

Sue the court


11 posted on 07/19/2005 6:38:10 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Liz

Don't see how he could be convicted. He express his opinion. He didn't say the guy was a Scumbag, just that he thought of him as a Scumbag. Big difference.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 6:38:31 AM PDT by Flint
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To: Old Grumpy
Well, the carjacker IS a scumbag. And worse.

Well, the carjacker IS a scumbag , and The Judge is worse.

So9

13 posted on 07/19/2005 6:38:44 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Liz

I think the judge is a scumbag. A really big one. The judge should have the court reimburse the young man.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 6:39:00 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: Liz
was ordered to pay a $1,000 fine for contempt of court yesterday.

Walks into court to perform his civic duty and now he is a criminal. I have a big problem with this type of crap!

15 posted on 07/19/2005 6:39:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Too many idiots, too little time to deal with them all......I'll just shoot what I can.)
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To: Liz
I wouldn't apologize. I wouldn't pay the fine and if the judge wants to jail me, fine. There are some people I really do think are "scumbags." Carjackers being one of 'em.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
16 posted on 07/19/2005 6:42:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Liz

Well, my daughter got off of a murder trial, amoung other reasons because when the judge asked her if she had any immediate reaction to the defendant my daughter said "She sure looks like she could have done it." But, of course she didn't use any bad language.

I think the judge over reacted, wasn't the juror under oath, and therefore obligated to speak the truth?


17 posted on 07/19/2005 6:42:49 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Liz

It would have been worth the $1,000 fine to escape jury duty in that case.


18 posted on 07/19/2005 6:43:31 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Flint
Yeah telling crooks what you think of them is now verboten. The liberal mindset at work.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 07/19/2005 6:43:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: gridlock; Liz; All

Here are the rules this guy sets out for his courtroom. He actually sounds like a pretty good judge:

http://www4.law.com/ny/courts/docs/ny/bios/wetzel.htm

I have no difficulty seeing his rules implemented in a courtroom. Grownups know better than to think that they're actors in "Night Court" when they act as officers of the court. That said, if Caruso didn't KNOW the rules, this was silly--and $1K is a lot of money for a stupid mistake.


20 posted on 07/19/2005 6:44:41 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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