[libertyman]

Guliani's a Lefty thru & thru...yes, he may be a great leader, & he showed a lot of class during the 9/11 episode (especially when he turned down the $ offered to him by the Saudi millionaire who blamed 9/11 for our support of Israel--GREAT JOB, RUDY!); yes, he was terrific @ lowering the crime rate in NYC (or so I have heard, anyway)--but he's no conservative, he has little respect for limited government & family values (remember when he moved in w/ a homo couple after splitting up w/ his wife?). I think it's despicable that he would become a serious contender for the GOP Presidential election in '08.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

...yes, he may be a great leader, & he showed a lot of class during the 9/11 episode (especially when he turned down the $ offered to him by the Saudi millionaire who blamed 9/11 for our support of Israel--GREAT JOB, RUDY!); yes, he was terrific @ lowering the crime rate in NYC

You should have stopped writing right there. Rudy isn't my first, or even second choice for a presidential candidate, but that doesn't stop me from respecting the hell out of the man.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Heck, I even respect Ed Koch more then I ever thought I would, since he came out swinging against the appeasers in 2004.

Me and Ed Koch probably agree on the next to nothing else, but the one thing is the important thing.

That sort of gets lost in these "who is the more orthodox conservative" pissing contests.