[Mind-numbed Robot]

However, keep in mind that you are acknowledging a fundamental contradiction in that the WTO is doing this by their edicts, behind closed doors, by those who owe no representational allegiance to our People, our Republic, or its Constitution, and the laws of our government. And you are using this extra-constitutional body to coerce this result. You are explicitly abidicating and attacking our nation's sovereignty, which you denied was happening, by so doing.

Absolutely wrong! How much evidence will it take to convince you? Congress has the last say on all this, not some foreign committee meeting in secret. Congress can agree or disagree, obey or disobey. We maintain complete soverneignty, at least to the extent of the representatives we elect. That is why you don't want to put the Democrats back in power. They want exactly what you fear.

As for the links, those were just some that popped to the top of Google. Take up your attack on their pedigree with the individual sources, and with Google. The substance is the important thing.

OK, but I assume you read them and were aware from whence they eminated.

[hedgetrimmer]

We maintain complete soverneignty, at least to the extent of the representatives we elect

I quoted the Harmonization Handbook of the WTO, showing the mechanisms the WTO uses effectivel eliminate any sovereign decision-making in their system, especially for the Codex Alimentarius and phytosantiary rules. Did you see it?

[Paul Ross]

Congress has the last say on all this, not some foreign committee meeting in secret. Congress can agree or disagree, obey or disobey.

The same guys who have a vested interest in the sell-out, having passed (without reading) the NAFTA, and WTO agreements? The same guys who likely take Chinese and other foreign money for their re-elections? In principal, the appearance of U.S. autonomy is being reserved. But not in practice. Every time things come to a shove, the prospect of Or Else All-Out "Trade War" is invoked. As if what is happening isn't full-blown trade war now against our country.

We maintain complete soverneignty, at least to the extent of the representatives we elect.

Apparently so. Hence my point is proved.

That is why you don't want to put the Democrats back in power. They want exactly what you fear.

I agree. But they differ on these soveriegnty issues in precisely how much degree from what's currently there pretending to be Republican? My take is that the GOP guys either shut their eyes and ears to the betrayals of sovereignty, and/or don't want to think about it because the money dangled in front of them. They have become corrupted. So the corrupted GOPers are just ignoring it and pretending "this is NOT happening". Thank God for honest remaining republicans such as Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter. While the democrats will openly cheer the abdications...and brazenly lie to their constituency as they always have.

But as the RINOs have proved, you can't accept these kind of Fifth Columnists in your ranks.

We need to take the GOP back, and clean house of everyone who does not repudiate these actions that have been implemented.

I believe we need a constitutional amendment to term-limit the Senators to two terms. Let's see if that improves things. My guess is that it would.

And an honest Supreme Court would have made all this unnecessary, if they had simply ruled from the get-go that these "agreements" were an unconstitutional Excess Delegation by Congress, and further, to the extent permissable, that any such Agreement needed to be implemented as a Treaty, by two-thirds vote in the Senate. But as you know, we have 5 or more Justices who believe not in our Constitution, and the Power being from THE PEOPLE, but their own internationalist creeds.