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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Congress has the last say on all this, not some foreign committee meeting in secret. Congress can agree or disagree, obey or disobey.

The same guys who have a vested interest in the sell-out, having passed (without reading) the NAFTA, and WTO agreements? The same guys who likely take Chinese and other foreign money for their re-elections? In principal, the appearance of U.S. autonomy is being reserved. But not in practice. Every time things come to a shove, the prospect of Or Else All-Out "Trade War" is invoked. As if what is happening isn't full-blown trade war now against our country.

We maintain complete soverneignty, at least to the extent of the representatives we elect.

Apparently so. Hence my point is proved.

That is why you don't want to put the Democrats back in power. They want exactly what you fear.

I agree. But they differ on these soveriegnty issues in precisely how much degree from what's currently there pretending to be Republican? My take is that the GOP guys either shut their eyes and ears to the betrayals of sovereignty, and/or don't want to think about it because the money dangled in front of them. They have become corrupted. So the corrupted GOPers are just ignoring it and pretending "this is NOT happening". Thank God for honest remaining republicans such as Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter. While the democrats will openly cheer the abdications...and brazenly lie to their constituency as they always have.

But as the RINOs have proved, you can't accept these kind of Fifth Columnists in your ranks.

We need to take the GOP back, and clean house of everyone who does not repudiate these actions that have been implemented.

I believe we need a constitutional amendment to term-limit the Senators to two terms. Let's see if that improves things. My guess is that it would.

And an honest Supreme Court would have made all this unnecessary, if they had simply ruled from the get-go that these "agreements" were an unconstitutional Excess Delegation by Congress, and further, to the extent permissable, that any such Agreement needed to be implemented as a Treaty, by two-thirds vote in the Senate. But as you know, we have 5 or more Justices who believe not in our Constitution, and the Power being from THE PEOPLE, but their own internationalist creeds.

139 posted on 07/19/2005 10:39:17 AM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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To: Paul Ross
We need to take the GOP back, and clean house of everyone who does not repudiate these actions that have been implemented.

I am happy with my Senators and my Representative. How about you? If you are not happy there is little I can do about it. I can't vote in your district, I am not a Democrat. :-)

I believe we need a constitutional amendment to term-limit the Senators to two terms. Let's see if that improves things. My guess is that it would.

Why? If you have dishonest people they would only act faster to do their skulduggery. The problem is the rules which give too much power to those with seniority. Another problem is the power of the committees and sub-committees. Who rules those? The ones with the most seniority. That is why incumbents have an unnecessary advantage.

I know that seems to back term limits but not necessarily. Some congressmen are better for us than any replacement so why shouldn't we have the option to vote for them. The need is to change the rules so that such people can't have undue power.

And an honest Supreme Court would have made all this unnecessary, if they had simply ruled from the get-go that these "agreements" were an unconstitutional Excess Delegation by Congress, and further, to the extent permissible, that any such Agreement needed to be implemented as a Treaty, by two-thirds vote in the Senate. But as you know, we have 5 or more Justices who believe not in our Constitution, and the Power being from THE PEOPLE, but their own internationalist creeds.

I agree. Bush is trying to remedy that, I hope.

I didn't address the rest of your comments because they all come back to this, the quality of people we elect. I can't replace those I object to because I can't vote for or against them and neither can you.

I don't believe these agreements are a power grab. I think they are good trade policies. If I am wrong and you are right, what are you going to do about it?

147 posted on 07/19/2005 11:28:21 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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