CAFTA Should Be Rejected, Just Like the EU Constitution

Eco Logic Powerhouse ^ | 15 Jul 05 | Phyllis Schlafly

[datura]

Enough of this "free trade". Globalism is done, just as the NWO once was. It has become obvious that the only oes who profit from this scheme are the ones who haven't paid in blood to defend this nation - of course they would be the ones to sell us out first.

[EagleUSA]

Right on! Down with CAFTA - just another NWO/One America scheme that Americans will pay dearly for. It is only a product of massive political egos and agendas of Washington elitists.

It is NOT FOR THE PEOPLE!

[cripplecreek]

No CAFTA for me thanx.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

I imagine we'll see Phyllis Schlafly banned from the forum now, too.

Can't upset the mindless.

[RockinRight]

My father has a saying regarding this:

"Free trade is fine as long as it's FAIR trade...and since we're America we ought to be the ones deciding what fair is..."

[SolidSupplySide]

Economists know that even unilaterally lowering trade barriers improves a country's wealth. Having it done on both ends doubles the benefit.

I don't understand the high tax proponents who claim they are conservative and oppose CAFTA.

[inquest]

You just answered your own question. If unilaterally lowering tariffs is good for us, then there's no need for a setting a precedent for infringing on our sovereignty by enacting CAFTA.

[SolidSupplySide]

You just answered your own question. If unilaterally lowering tariffs is good for us, then there's no need for a setting a precedent for infringing on our sovereignty by enacting CAFTA.

My statement was that unilaterally lowering trade barriers is beneficial. Doing it multi-laterally increases the beneficial effects. That is the goal of CAFTA - multi lateral lowering fo trade barriers. And that is why CAFTA is good, as any advocate of low taxes will tell you.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

CAFTA isn't about trade, it's about destroying the nation state.

[Digger]

Here was the spin pn NAFTA:
1)create a US trade surplus
2)raise the standard of living in both Mexico & US
3)make a more honest Mex government
4)stop the flow of illegals
Fool me once ...........

[SolidSupplySide]

CAFTA isn't about trade, it's about destroying the nation state.

It's hard to see how that is the case. Congress can dissolve treaties as easily as it enters them.

[SolidSupplySide]

2)raise the standard of living in both Mexico & US

That's what makes it worth it. We can't tax ourselves into prosperity.

1)create a US trade surplus

Who said that? Are you making that up? You probably made the others up, too.

[Pylot]

You have been deluded into believing that all free trade is good. CAFTA is neither free nor is it trade.

CAFTA is a way to make ultra wealthy and already rich multi national countries even wealthier - at the expense of your personal standard of living.

CAFTA has nothing to do with free trade. It has to do with the New World Order that Bush the Elder was so proud to declare years ago.

[Fawn]

Americans don't want to be "integrated" with the poverty, corruption, socialism, and communism of our hemispheric neighbors

Exactly.

[chris1]

Amen. CAFTA and the CFR plan are downright scary if we were ever to want to crack down on the illegal invasion going on.

[SolidSupplySide]

CAFTA is a way to make ultra wealthy and already rich multi national countries even wealthier - at the expense of your personal standard of living.

I assume you meant multi national "companies". As a participant in GW Bush's "Ownership Society", that makes me wealthier, too.

[SolidSupplySide]

CAFTA is a way to make ultra wealthy and already rich multi national countries even wealthier - at the expense of your personal standard of living.

And it is difficult for you to assert that share holders benefitted to the detriment of wage earners. Unemployment is lower today than when NAFTA was signed. There have been more jobs created than new entrants into the workforce since NAFTA was signed.

[n-tres-ted]

PS may know family, but I must say respectfully she does not know economics or trade. This is the kind of thinking that gave us Smoot-Hawley, the Crash of '29 and the Great Depression. Competition is the way the world works, and building walls of chain link or taxes will not change that fact. I am an originalist on matters of the Constitution and our national interests, and I look out for the interests of ordinary working people. The more we can integrate Central and South America into productive roles in our culture, the better for all of us.

[Iron Matron]

the Senate Republican policy paper assures us that CAFTA will diminish "the incentives for illegal immigration to the United States."

Does the policy paper actually tell us why it would diminish incentives for illegals? Well, it's because CAFTA will "go around" Congress and place immigration under FEDERAL TRADE, that's why. This is an unconstitutional usurpation of power from "We the People" to Foreign Committees/Governments.

In the Union of the Americas, free trade means free and unrestricted travel all the way from South America, through the Brand new "Trade Corridor/Super Highway" (which is being dumped on taxpayers as we speak) and on up in to Canada.

Interfering with folks from another country could be considered illegal under CAFTA..we could not "impede the movement of free trade", etc.

Any USA President that signs this Trade/Treaty should be IMPEACHED.

[Pylot]

You can tell us how wonderful all this so called free trade is when you are personally competing directly against a person who can very comfortably live on less than a 10th of your current income.

And when the difference between what they make and what you need goes into the profit column of your "ownership stock" you can live off the dividend too!

And when they become your neighbor and bring you a fresh case of tuberculosis or something that we eradicated years ago you can celebrate your new standard of living!

It is not up to America to bring our standard of living to the rest of the world. It is up to the people of other countries to be responsible for themselves.

You seem to think that because the United States is a target of envy that this has something to do with free trade. You don't have a clue as to your own countries standing in the eyes of other people in the world. Instead of protecting what you have you think that being a free trader does not mean selling yourself short.

It ain't free when it costs you everything in order to participate! If your standard of living suffers, where is the bargain, where is the benefit?

Why are Americans not rushing to these other countries if they are so fantastic?