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Oil Dividend
N/A | 7/18/05 | Me

Posted on 07/18/2005 5:29:20 AM PDT by Archangelsk

Want to get the Plame and DSM issue off of the national radar, Mr. President? Pressure the oil companies to start funneling their obscene profits - profits so huge that the senior executives are complaining about their inability to spend it - into rolling the price of gas back to $1.25/gallon. Either that or declare a moratorium on the federal gas tax and encourage the states to do the same.

Just a suggestion.


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To: Archangelsk

You sound exactly like a Democrat, you complain about corporate profits as though corporations are black holes. The reality is that corporations are made up of stockholders and workers, and they are the ones that suffer when you attack them.


21 posted on 07/18/2005 5:51:43 AM PDT by Betaille ("I turned 21 in prison doin' life without parole" Merle Haggard (lyrics))
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To: rhombus

Never worked in the IC I see. Good, here's a small primer. The reason why we got caught flat-footed on the fall of the USSR was because of Aldrich Ames. He compromised billions of dollars of programs for his 400K house. Plame built a program worth some untold amount of money and now those assests are gone. That's your money and your security gone.

Sure its not a scandal?


22 posted on 07/18/2005 5:53:10 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk
WRONG!!!!

Trust me, in this industry, ( I design oil derricks) the problem isn't only high fuel taxes. The reason oil prices are so high is that OPEC knows they can break us over a barrel anytime they want. We need to drill more domestic oil; and that has begun.With the price per barrel hovering at $62, wildcatters are pulling rigs out of the weeds in their backlots and calling my company to certify them for drilling. There's oil aplenty outh there! If the EPA would stand down, and the states and the feds would keep their fingers out of the till, gas would be well under a dollar a gallon.

If the EPA would back off their regulations, US refineries would find it more profitable to re-tool and begin refining gasoline instead if paint thinner fuel additves and other products derived from petroleum. The supply of oil is not the reason for high gas prices.

But I kinda like it the way it is. With the price per barrel what it is, my overtime has more than doubled my take home pay!

23 posted on 07/18/2005 5:54:44 AM PDT by acad1228 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: KenD
their stock prices would head straight down the toilet.

I'm not too concerned about that happening. My oil stocks have been moving up nicely, and I expect the trend to continue.

And as oil hits $100 per barrel next year, the profits should offset some of the negative impact of higher oil prices.

24 posted on 07/18/2005 5:56:06 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: neutrino

My bet is Peak oil will top gas out at more like $4-5 a gallon

Peak ie demand driven pricing will put oil at $100-150 a barrel at least


25 posted on 07/18/2005 5:56:40 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: Archangelsk
Uhhhh... if you think that there are obscene profits being made in the oil industry, you are free to play the oil futures market like everybody in the oil industry and become obscenely wealthy.

Or lose your ass.

The more risk involved in a business endeavor, the greater the upside and downside.

It's great when you win, but Hell when you lose.

Just ask all the former Houstonians from the mid-80s who lost their jobs and had to walk away from mortgages that were three times what the house was worth after the oil bust of the early 80s.

Plus, somebody like you, who has never created a job for another person in his entire life but knows everything anyway, will make his fortune in no time.

26 posted on 07/18/2005 6:00:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Smartaleck
Perhaps you'd better spend your time buying oil stocks?

None left...The Representatives in Washington own all of it...

27 posted on 07/18/2005 6:02:14 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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To: acad1228
While I agree with your post, it contains a whole lot of "ifs".

I suspect that what Archanglesk is wanting is for Bush to do something. The same as you want. However Bush will do nothing.

It is an oversimplification in this issue to cry supply and demand and offer nothing more. We are not discussing widgits, we have in mind oil, the lifeblood of the world economy, not just ours. Many other forces are at work here in the market place, namely people that wish us ill.

28 posted on 07/18/2005 6:05:16 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Flyer

$19.95 for a $0.50 DVD?


29 posted on 07/18/2005 6:07:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Archangelsk

You're stupid.


30 posted on 07/18/2005 6:08:32 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Smokin' Joe
I chose to not buy that DVD.
31 posted on 07/18/2005 6:10:55 AM PDT by Flyer ( * Post Grad - University of Google *)
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To: Josh in PA
Josh...

That is all uncalled for and to me an apology would be proper.

32 posted on 07/18/2005 6:11:06 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: acad1228
But I kinda like it the way it is. With the price per barrel what it is, my overtime has more than doubled my take home pay!

I can understand that. When gasoline was $0.89 on the coasts, I went three months without work ( I'm a wellsite geologist).

Now I'm making enough to afford gasoline...

33 posted on 07/18/2005 6:11:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Betaille
What economic "fallacy"???
Haven't you ever heard of market "competition"???
The high price of oil naturally stimulates demand for more economical alternatives.
I promote one of the more sensible approaches: nuclear energy + mass transit.
It's not a panacea, but it'll certainly help reduce our oil consumption and help keep gas prices down.
If you're looking forward to paying $2.50 ~$3.50 per gallon of gas, you gotta be a little loopy.
34 posted on 07/18/2005 6:11:26 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: The_Victor

Perhaps you'd like to return to the Carter Administration's "Windfall Profits Tax."

The most regressive tax in American History. 40% tax of all new oil at the well head. Broke 90% of all the exploration oil companies in the US. Reduced drilling rigs from 2900 in Texas to just 13 in 3 years. Broke 50% of the oil investment banks and effectively banned drilling of independents in the US. More than 5 million homes lost in Texas alone. Tax money was allocated to the NE blue states who were broke.


35 posted on 07/18/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Flyer

I wait until they hit the cheap rack myself.


36 posted on 07/18/2005 6:12:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: jec41
The most regressive tax in American History. 40% tax of all new oil at the well head. Broke 90% of all the exploration oil companies in the US. Reduced drilling rigs from 2900 in Texas to just 13 in 3 years. Broke 50% of the oil investment banks and effectively banned drilling of independents in the US. More than 5 million homes lost in Texas alone. Tax money was allocated to the NE blue states who were broke.

The WPT was probably the primary reason for the "Carter Economy." It was so bad they had to create a new name for it: remember "Stagflation?"

37 posted on 07/18/2005 6:19:43 AM PDT by The_Victor (Doh!... stupid tagline)
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To: Flyer

I'm sitting in a refinery typing this!

People DO NOT understand that refineries operate on a profit margin of pennys on the gallon. An extra 1 cent a gallon is a HUGE profit increase for them.

.GOV still makes the largest profit on gasoline at $0.68 per gallon or so depending on what state you are in.

The second largest profit maker on gasoline is normally the local frachise owner.


38 posted on 07/18/2005 6:22:10 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: cynicom

But he's an idiot!! Why should I apologize for stating fact?



39 posted on 07/18/2005 6:24:20 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Archangelsk
The architects of current oil prices and subsequent gasoline prices aren't the oil companies.

If you want to find the entity with the largest chunk of the responsibility, that would be the EPA.

Sure, congress and the president could fix that tomorrow, but you would hate them for it.

So enjoy your gas prices.

40 posted on 07/18/2005 6:27:21 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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