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Did the CIA “Out” Valerie Plame?
http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200507180801.asp ^ | July 18, 2005 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 07/18/2005 5:22:18 AM PDT by mal

With each passing day, the manufactured "scandal" over the publication of Valerie Plame's relationship with the CIA establishes new depths of mainstream-media hypocrisy. A highly capable special prosecutor is probing the underlying facts, and it is appropriate to withhold legal judgments until he completes the investigation over which speculation runs so rampant. But it is not too early to assess the performance of the press. It's been appalling.

Is that hyperbole? You be the judge. Have you heard that the CIA is actually the source responsible for exposing Plame's covert status? Not Karl Rove, not Bob Novak, not the sinister administration cabal du jour of Fourth Estate fantasy, but the CIA itself? Had you heard that Plame's cover has actually been blown for a decade — i.e., since about seven years before Novak ever wrote a syllable about her? Had you heard not only that no crime was committed in the communication of information between Bush administration officials and Novak, but that no crime could have been committed because the governing law gives a person a complete defense if an agent's status has already been compromised by the government?

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1 posted on 07/18/2005 5:22:19 AM PDT by mal
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To: mal

Tenet?


2 posted on 07/18/2005 5:23:15 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: mal
But it is not too early to assess the performance of the press. It's been appalling.

The performance of the Democrat Party has also been appalling. The DNC's web site is all about how to take down Karl Rove. They even have a picture of Karl Rove at the top. They call that an agenda? Talk about "dividing" instead of "uniting". Oh, but DNC Chairman Howard Dean thinks Osama bin Laden is "innocent until proven guilty". Good grief.
3 posted on 07/18/2005 5:28:49 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Archon of the East
See my post about the possibility of Tenet being the leaker here: Freeper Thoughts on the Plame Kerfuffle
4 posted on 07/18/2005 5:30:14 AM PDT by RightFighter
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To: mal
What I find astonishing about this whole thing is the MSM&D still can't figure out Plame was not undercover...therefore no leak, no crime!

Fitzgerald's fishing for something else.

5 posted on 07/18/2005 5:35:37 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: mal
No, no, no! We must keep the American people amused. OJ, shark attacks, Scott, shark attacks, Jacko, shark attacks, Jennifer and now (for the second time), Valerie. It's summer time so I suppose it's appropriate they put us to sleep with a rerun.

The biggest story that never was. A non-story desperately hyped by the Lame Stream Media.

I heard someone, can't remember who, say on the radio, "Just remember, my friends, this is a total non-story outside the beltway." Well put and true!

6 posted on 07/18/2005 5:36:55 AM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mal

DURING THE cLINTON ADMINISTRATION??


7 posted on 07/18/2005 5:39:11 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: mal

Bumping for reference.


8 posted on 07/18/2005 6:09:51 AM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Archon of the East

I liked the logic of the brief. It isn't the American public to whom the law is concerned about having classified information revealed. Rather it is foreign governments, particurly hostile foreign governments.

The CIA negligently revealed Plame's covert status to Cuba a long time before this Rove thing ever came up.

Her cover was already blown. It's why she works a desk job and walks in and out of the public doors at the CIA when she goes to work every single day of the year for nigh onto a decade.

If it's true that the media has known this all along, then one has to wonder if the special prosecutor isn't unofficially and simultaneously working an "expose the hypocricy of the media" side operation.

To know they have reported this themselves to the courts by a legal brief, and then not to reveal that to their listening audience is at the same level as the Dan Rather Memogate outrage.


9 posted on 07/18/2005 6:20:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
If it's true that the media has known this all along, then one has to wonder if the special prosecutor isn't unofficially and simultaneously working an "expose the hypocricy of the media" side operation. To know they have reported this themselves to the courts by a legal brief, and then not to reveal that to their listening audience is at the same level as the Dan Rather Memogate outrage.

I really hope so, I have had feeling in the pit of my stomach that something is afoul behind the scenes and it usually involves the people that are screaming the loudest. Lets not forget how many FBI files have been removed over the past decade plus and by whom. Seems like a very coordinated effort with the obvious help of the media...IMO

10 posted on 07/18/2005 6:28:55 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

Wouldn't it be fun to see someone irrefutably deliver the goods on the media?

BTW, does anyone know what discretion the special prosecutor has? For example, a rogue CIA agent attempting to topple the government or affect an election through the use of position and CIA information and resources IS illegal, isn't it?

Could this prosecutor be investigating Plame & Wilson??!!


11 posted on 07/18/2005 6:33:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Archon of the East
Seems like a very coordinated effort with the obvious help of the media...IMO

Especially helped by the NY Times.

12 posted on 07/18/2005 6:33:57 AM PDT by syriacus (To WHICH entity does LIBELLER JOE WILSON pledge his allegiance?)
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To: mal

I can't believe this is still a story.


13 posted on 07/18/2005 6:34:25 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: RightFighter
I guess it is remotely possible that Tenet may have been the leaker, but then...why would he sign off on the investigation as he did if he knew he was the leaker? There sure were alot of food fights after he left about just such leaks, with Goss's aide, Patrick Murray, coming totally unglued and screaming at some CIA agents about it and many resigned. Novak also mentioned he had called the CIA for confirmation and even David Corn has expressed an interest in a CIA person who is attached to the NSC. So the theory that the leak did come from someone in the CIA is possible. That being said, from your other thread:

Miller catches wind of this conversation, perhaps through a conversation with Cooper or perhaps she asked Rove a similar question. Anyway, Miller wants to confirm this portion of the story, so she does some digging to find out the NAME of Wilson's wife.

This can't be right. Why would Miller dig for the name when she doesn't bother to write the story anyway? Answer...because she is the one that was peddling the story to set up Rove. Remember, Miller and Plame both worked on WMD proliferation issues, they were certainly aware of each other's work.

14 posted on 07/18/2005 6:44:25 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: RightFighter

Before publishing his article Novak checked with the public information office at CIA. They did not warn him off. Ergo, they didn't much care about protecting her.


15 posted on 07/18/2005 6:46:30 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: xzins

Interesting thread going about what Fitzgerald, the prosecutor might be really investigating

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445072/posts

All roads are leading back to the Wilson's themselves and their involvement in the forged documents.

This could get real good.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 6:47:21 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: mal
Have you heard that the CIA is actually the source responsible for exposing Plame's covert status? Not Karl Rove, not Bob Novak, not the sinister administration cabal du jour of Fourth Estate fantasy, but the CIA itself?

Yes, but the media hasn't exactly emphasized this fact.

Had you heard that Plame's cover has actually been blown for a decade — i.e., since about seven years before Novak ever wrote a syllable about her?

Same answer.

Had you heard not only that no crime was committed in the communication of information between Bush administration officials and Novak, but that no crime could have been committed because the governing law gives a person a complete defense if an agent's status has already been compromised by the government?

I haven't heard this, but it's plain common sense. It has been well-reported, although muddled at times, that the leaker must know the agent's covert status and intend to blow his cover.

17 posted on 07/18/2005 6:50:43 AM PDT by kesg
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To: xzins
For example, a rogue CIA agent attempting to topple the government or affect an election through the use of position and CIA information and resources IS illegal, isn't it?

Don't know for sure but I would assume yes, absolutely. I'm sure this prosecutor is looking at everything. Maybe even the reason the Bergler sentencing has been delayed? This could be real fun if weren't so potentially serious. But I think it will lead us to what we all have known for a long time. No other explanation as to the hypocrisy in coverage of GOP vs DEM's. IMO though the media is just the well placed conduit to spin the agenda of the real culprits.

18 posted on 07/18/2005 6:59:50 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Republican Red

Wow. And I was just wondering the same thing.

And this might go to the top of the Dem Party.


19 posted on 07/18/2005 7:00:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Archon of the East

See #16 and go to the link if you haven't already. Fascinating.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 7:01:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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