Posted on 07/18/2005 3:39:51 AM PDT by Man50D
The people who are out to destroy America have a vast infrastructure supporting them. They all are totally irrational in their thought processes.
"Atrocities"
9/11 was an atrocity. 7/7 was an atrocity. Van Gogh was an atrocity.
Abu Ghraib had a small amount of prosecutable behavior, that was prosecuted and for which people are in jail, that fell well short of "atrocity" by any reasonable, informed standard.
Gitmo was fraternity hijinks.
You need to read something other than your local Leftist media, and endeavor to get informed instead of indoctrinated.
"No Torture Occurred"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18797
Cowardice and atrocities, huh? Ho-kayyyyy.
You've been smoking too much locoweed. Why don't you be specific on what "atrocities" have been committed at Club Gitmo?
..(why the playful Gitmo for such an inhuman camp by the way? The cowardice is visible in that it's on Cuban ground)...
Or are you toke'n on a crack pipe?
Cowardice is a much better description for Europe.
The area has a large amount of NY transplants and many are Jewish.
I guess anything is possible. But I won't lose any sleep over Muslims nuking America. Muslims, in my experience are the most militarily incompetent people on the face of the earth. They can be rocket scientist, don't get me wrong, but when it comes to conguering shit, they are idiots. Every major terrorist attack against America has happended because we let them do it. Now, even though we have gone about securing America half assed they still haven't been able to muster an attack.
That'll make FL and NV redder then.
They better not nuke 9 of our cities - the Dem/Libs will send a terse letter of complaint to the U.N.!
Florida may be red, but South Florida is sort of a separate entity. Heavily blue, of course. I hope they take Vegas off thar list. Nuking the rest would be a net plus for America...Just kidding! This story is bunk. WND is a bunk purveyor. If Al Qaeda had them they would have nuked at least DC an NYC. If the Chechen rebels had nukes they would have used them on Moscow instead of blowing up a school full of kids with conventional explosives and selling the nukes to Al Qaeda.
The guys a troll. Look at his sign up date.
Don't waste your time on trolls.
I looked. It's not unlikely, but he may just need to be informed. I haven't looked at his posting history, which might push me to one side or the other.
We shouldn't be too quick to zot the honestly misinformed, if that's what he really is.
GMTA; see my post above yours.
There is nothing "honestly misinformed" about that statement.
He came right here and slapped you right in the face.
I'll be the judge of that.
I looked at his posting history, and he is not a garden variety troll, that's for sure.
If you can't get past one disagreeable statement, to help get a guy better informed, and perhaps made a better ally for our causes, you should reconsider your approach.
I apologize formally. Although I disagree on the severity of events at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, I phrased it wrong. I hope disagreement is allowed here.
Each and every country in Europe had a right of its own to yes or no participate in the War On Iraq. That's called freedom. Some did, some didn't.
Iraq wasn't a breeding ground for terrorists, although Saddam did support anti-Israel forces. But now it IS a breeding ground and training camp for such sick souls.
As the awful mass murders of children last week, and the gas truck explosion (100 dead, among them many a courageous policeman-to-be) proved: the situation is awful. My prediction (not leftist, but based on observation) is that this may well continue for 20 to 30 years. Iraq oil may become inaccessible to anyone because of all possible suicide attack strategies. In the meantime Iraq and Iran will become more and more befriended and form an immense Islam axis. The American death toll could reach Vietnam proportions. But a wholesale retraction of Anglo-American troops is not possible either - that would be encouraging thousands and thousands of terrorists from all over the world, who'd get funded by all that valuable Iraq oil.
It's the rock and hard place scenario, or, if you will, the Coalition Of The Willing has painted itself into a corner here. A deadly corner.
Yes, I was a firm opponent of that War On Iraq, because I made a quite true prediction beforehand of what would happen. Alas, I was right. Although I deeply respect the USA (and darn, I am NO leftist), I think America is, as every other country, capable of mistakes. This was a huge one, which has altered the course of history, and not for the good.
I am a soft-spoken man, not a loud person like the Rush Limbaughs of the world.
To conclude my message: there were no WMDs. In fact, Saddam was on his last legs. As the sad comedy performed by his information minister abundantly showed.
Iraq was a failed state. It still is. And even worse. The hearts and minds have not been won. The Iraqis haven't welcomed the USA marines with flowers. Shock and awe didn't function. There has been no ticker tape parade in NY. The Jessica Lynch story was a lie.
If I now am being seen as the bringer of bad tidings who needs to be punished (banned) for his efforts, so be it.
I'll be the judge of that.
So will I.
There is little use in engaging pat the postman. He/She could be a losing liberal, a muslim or terrorist sympathizer, a Frenchperson, or a socialist/communist. Anybody can register and post to this site including the enemy. Note that Pat just joined in early July.
I vote for Hollywood as a target.
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