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China to Get First Crack at Russian Oil: Putin
Atimes.com ^ | 7/16/2005 | John Helmer

Posted on 07/17/2005 8:05:01 PM PDT by ex-Texan

MOSCOW - In his most detailed statement to date, President Vladimir Putin has spelled out Russia's priorities for transporting crude oil to Asian markets in the next decade. In diplomatic but unambiguous language, Putin rejected Japanese proposals, in favor of China.

In a press conference at Gleneagles last week as the new chairman of the G8, Putin identified rail deliveries to China from the new border terminal at Skovorodino as his first priority, with 20 million tons (385,000 barrels per day) the target for delivery, once Transneft, the state pipeline agency, builds the planned new pipeline to Skovorodino.

This terminal is 600 kilometers east of the main border rail junction at Zabakailsk and Manzhouli, where current Russian oil deliveries by rail cross into China. It is still unclear what rail capacity China has, or will build, to carry the oil from Skorovodino. Current maps show Russian and Chinese rail lines moving east-west in parallel on either side of the border. They are not yet connected.

An additional 10 million tons (192,000 bpd), Putin said, will be sent on by rail to the new tanker terminal planned near Nakhodka. Construction will take "around three years", the president noted. The president's remarks rejected wishful thinking from Tokyo that a Japanese government offer to finance a pipeline all the way to Perevoznaya Bay, near Nakhodka port, would tempt the Kremlin over Chinese insistence that deliveries to Beijing take priority. "As the oil in this [first-stage] pipeline increases through the development of new sources and fields in eastern Siberia," Putin said, "we will build a second section of the pipeline that will run right to the Pacific coast. This system will then be pumping 50 million tons [972,000 bpd]..."

This number is a discreet way of rebuffing the Japanese government, whose multi-billion dollar financing proposal for the Nakhodka-first pipeline has assumed a capacity of 80 million tons annually (1.5 million bpd). The pay-back terms may also have required such a large volume, despite the fact that, as Russian industry sources have repeatedly pointed out, the eastern Siberian oilfields are far too underdeveloped to fill the pipeline to that level within the next decade or longer. Niether the Russian government, nor the commercial Russian oil companies, have any intention of diverting crude from western Siberia in order to make up the difference for Japan's benefit.

Thus Putin's remarks ought to be read in Tokyo as marking a colossal failure on the part of Japanese interests who have promoted and lobbied for the Nakhodka plan for years. Like the Indians, whose failure to link billion-dollar investment promises to commitments of Russian crude oil supply have resulted in a comparably spectacular failure, the Japanese ought to be auditing how the money allocated to this task was spent; and blaming themselves for the dead end their tactics have now brought them.

In almost the same breath, Putin had less-than-reassuring words for the other goal in Japan's two-pronged strategy for Russia - a peace treaty resolving the status of the Kurile Islands. "Regarding the territorial issue," Putin said, "I would call it the problem of signing a peace treaty - I think you will agree with me that in order to someday settle this question, we need to work on it together, and in order to work on it, we need to meet, to understand each other and trust each other. In order to trust each other, we need to build up our cooperation. These are the issues we intend [to discuss] during my visit to Japan." In short, no Russian oil and no Russian and will go to Japan for the foreseeable future.

Putin's latest statement on the Russian geopolitics of oil was significant, too, for what he didn't offer Russia's most prominent strategic ally, India. This is despite the fact that the current Indian government, and its parastate oil and petroleum refining companies, ONGC and IOC, have made repeated, highly publicized attempts to secure new oilfield concessions in Russia from the Kremlin, as well as shareholding stakes in Russia's state-controlled energy companies.

None of these efforts has made the headway which China's President Hu Jintao and his oil men achieved on their visit to Moscow early this month. Referring to the two reported undertakings by Rosneft to the Chinese for exploration of a Sakhalin oil deposit, and for supply of gas to China, an Indian source observed: "Indian investment of $2.5 billion [in Sakhalin by ONGC] will bring energy security and prosperity to China. We don't shoot people in India, as the Chinese would have done if a Chinese investment had secured one of [the] world's largest oil and gas reserves for Indians. It would have been considered treachery."

In the Indian case, the source claims, still secret mandates have been granted by the Indians to US investment banks, and at least one French bank, to serve as intermediaries in arranging Russian oil resource acquisitions. The potential for corruption which these arrangements might inspire would be more noteworthy if there had been any reason to suspect that American investment banks can influence the Kremlin's oil and gas decisions. Indian officials express continuing optimism that they will secure oilfield concessions in time. They admit they have so far failed to reach any agreement on transporting to India any oil from the Sakhalin-1 oilfield, in which ONGC is a major investor.

John Helmer is the doyen of the foreign press corps in Russia. He first set up his Moscow bureau in 1989, and specializes in the coverage of Russian business.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Japan; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; dictatorship; highoil; oil; peakoil; putin; rasputin2; russia; russiaoil
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Russia send a signal to the West: China comes first. What impact this will have on rising oil prices and gasoline pump prices remains to be seen. But I think it is unlikely we will see $ 50 oil again. China's growing demand for oil will force pump prices for gasoline and diesel even higher. Read More About High Oil Prices?
1 posted on 07/17/2005 8:05:02 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

That's right, Vlady, feed the crocodile next door.


2 posted on 07/17/2005 8:16:52 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: ex-Texan
I hope they sell TONS to China. I hope this will help Wal-mart to lower its prices and allow me to purchase cheap junk even cheaper. Hooray America wins.

How can we win all the time? Its like we are always running the show.

^Just joking
3 posted on 07/17/2005 8:23:20 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Little Joe Putin will do anything for money. It's a pity really, The Russian people deserve better.


4 posted on 07/17/2005 8:25:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: ex-Texan

Hum...Russia and China becoming chummy again, what gives?


5 posted on 07/17/2005 8:28:58 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: ex-Texan

If the Russians partnered with Japan and India maybe they could control China's aims in Siberia, but this move by Putin seems a little dumb...


6 posted on 07/17/2005 8:36:12 PM PDT by crowman
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To: ex-Texan
There isn't any commodity in the world more fungible than oil. Where he sends it is utterly irrelevant. Every drop of oil put on the world stage satisfies demand. Every drop put on the world stage helps keep prices down.

Every penny increase in the cost of a barrel of oil rushes folks headlong at increasing speed looking for substitutes. There are some. This E85 I see being sold in rural areas strikes me as worthy of interest.It's my understanding that something like 1% of the cars on US roads will work on that fuel. $60.00 oil will cause that to increase at increasing speeds. Let's say in 10 years 75% of cars on US roads used that mixture. It says right here by that time oil exporters would be begging us to take their oil.

The point is, as long as no one loses faith in markets, and allows free societies to use push and enterprise, everything will work out just fine.

7 posted on 07/17/2005 8:36:29 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Archon of the East

Stalin had an agreement with Hitler, too, at one time.

They never learn. OTOH they never keep their promises, so it doesn't matter.


8 posted on 07/17/2005 8:55:21 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: snarks_when_bored

That's OK. They richly deserve each other, and it would serve both of them right. One would have difficulty imagining better outcome.


9 posted on 07/17/2005 9:08:33 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Graymatter
OTOH they never keep their promises, so it doesn't matter.

True unless you consider Golistyn's theory, which is way to loopy for me to have anything more than a general underatnding of it.

10 posted on 07/17/2005 9:15:46 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

I know this is not the Golitsyn you mean but I love to tell the story...

Prince Michael Golitsyn of Russia had taken an Italian Catholic wife, to the intense displeasure of Czarina Anna Ivanovna. Although the prince's bride soon died, the czarina remained bent on punishing him. She had a vendetta against the prince and his family, who opposed her rule; she also had a vicious sense of humor.

She ordered an ice palace built in St. Petersburg in the winter of 1739, completely outfitted with ice furnishings - dishes, toilets, tables, even a four poster ice bed. When all was finished, she selected the ugliest woman she could find to be the prince's second bride and forced the couple to parade about town on an elephant before the wedding. Accompanying them was a procession of freaks.

The procession made its way to the ice palace, where the "Pair of Fools" were stripped and sent to their icy nuptial chamber. Then all exits were sealed. The couple survived the frigid night, and nine months later, the prince's wife gave birth to twins.


11 posted on 07/17/2005 9:31:20 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Archon of the East

Russia and China?
They both have a communist culture.
Birds of a feather flock together.


12 posted on 07/17/2005 9:31:52 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Graymatter

LOL! That was good but, doesn't the cold make you blue, not red?


13 posted on 07/17/2005 9:40:05 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: henderson field
They both have a communist culture. Birds of a feather flock together.

Thats what bothers me, all it would take is for one true Communist super power to emerge and given the already socialist red nature of Europe...I don't know, but it bothers me. Best make some powerful friends fast. I believe India is possibility.

14 posted on 07/17/2005 9:43:05 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: ex-Texan

Dumb mistake. Who does he think is going to put the money in to build up Russia's extraction and shipment infrastructure? The Chinese are sitting on a bunch of dollars right now, but they won't be spending them on Russia. And besides, Chinese oil companies don't have that kind of technology. 'Course the French will probably step in.


15 posted on 07/17/2005 10:04:22 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: jb6

ping


16 posted on 07/17/2005 11:39:35 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Graymatter

I had a girlfriend who did that to me once as well.


17 posted on 07/17/2005 11:58:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ex-Texan

Old communist dictators always stick together.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 6:42:45 AM PDT by monday
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To: crowman; ValenB4; anonymoussierra; Freelance Warrior; BrooklynGOP; TexConfederate1861; ...
It's called capitalism. The Chinese bid the highest, they got the initial pipeline. The Japanese are next in the queue and the S.Koreas after that.

Considering how much we've done with Free Trade to build up the Chinese military and industry, there is little room to talk.

19 posted on 07/18/2005 6:59:17 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: Graymatter

And we helped build the Nazi and Japanese industrial might, just like we're doing with China. We never learn either.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 7:00:13 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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