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"The only agent that has been truly “outed” is Fulton Armstrong—not by Rove, but by Senator John Kerry, according to a story in Newsmax on 7/14/2005. Where are Pelosi, Reid and Kennedy now? Why are they so quiet about this?"
1 posted on 07/17/2005 6:37:22 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

At last, someone from the media with an IQ higher than room temperature.


2 posted on 07/17/2005 6:41:26 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; SMARTY; CyberAnt; nothingnew; Cornpone; Blurblogger; ...
Democrats are really grasping at straws and stopping at nothing to "get Bush!"..........and meanwhile, our CIC moves along in his steady, unperturbable-unflappable, focused manner. That is what they absolutely can not stand - President George W. Bush's RESOLVE! He is the living image of what it means to be an American!

Liberals hate him and islamofascists hate him. Do we see a pattern here?

Char (:

3 posted on 07/17/2005 6:41:40 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

There is no more "loyal opposition". Take the gloves off.


4 posted on 07/17/2005 6:41:53 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanters..with a smiley face!)
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To: CHARLITE
GWB is willing to take a lot of crap from people when it is directed at him. He has always said don't mess with his family and don't toss mud at his friends in pursuit of a political agenda. Karl Rove is a long time and trusted friend. There will be paybacks for this. Stay tuned.
5 posted on 07/17/2005 6:47:38 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Conservatives look at Iraqi dual use chemicals and see WMDs. Liberals see tomato gardens.)
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To: CHARLITE
Great find...simple, short and concise..which is why, the Liberals, are heading for the "Tall Grass" on this matter, with egg on their face.
6 posted on 07/17/2005 6:49:51 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: CHARLITE

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's "cover" (even if she had not been a covert CIA agent at the time of the alleged leaks)?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair.


7 posted on 07/17/2005 6:53:48 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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It was Novak who actually put the name, “Valerie Plame” into the newspaper and he had called the CIA to be sure that it was OK to reveal her name.

This is a crucial fact, yet virtually none of the lamestream articles about this story mention it. Likewise, Novak apparently learned her name from CIA sources before ever talking to Rove.

10 posted on 07/17/2005 7:25:09 PM PDT by kesg
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To: CHARLITE

Thank God for NewsMax!

ABC News Links Bin Laden and Saddam

http://archives.warroom.com/abcnews-1999.mp3

Here's a video of the ABC News report:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/rm/cyber/2004/binladen061704/segment1.ram


13 posted on 07/17/2005 7:38:52 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: CHARLITE
In journalism, the definition of “leak” suggests that it is applied to government officials who purposely give reporters secret or confidential information in order to publicize something they do not like

Like Mark Felt leaking to Woodward & Bernstein who are all considered OLD MEDIA heroes.

Watergate leaks = GOOD

Plamegate leaks = BAD

HYPOCRITES!

15 posted on 07/17/2005 7:42:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: CHARLITE

<"The only agent that has been truly “outed” is Fulton Armstrong—not by Rove, but by Senator John Kerry, according to a story in Newsmax on 7/14/2005. Where are Pelosi, Reid and Kennedy now? Why are they so quiet about this?">

I actually believe that both Rove and Bush really have evolved a very firm and direct set of shared guidelines on how to handle both the liberal press and the Democrat hacks who are within the CIA, likely Clinton appointees. After all there is a reason we have a new director of the CIA. If Plame had compromised her oath as a CIA employee in any opposition to change demanded of the CIA by our president, she would have been fired and/or charged with an offense. Instead her husband was used to engage in the Dems initiative to prove that our CIC lied about the reasons for war in Iraq.

This whole affair illustrates just how comprehensive the changes within the CIA likely are. We know such changes are needed based upon the lack of comprehensive intelligence on Islamofascism secured by the CIA prior to 9/11.This is good news by itself and Rove's beneficial fingerprints are all over this affair.

Dems were aced by the GOP again. And the liberal media still thinks our CIC is stupid. Hillary Clinton jokes that
our president is like Alfred E. Newman ?? Give me more of Alfred !!

This administration is beginning to show a form of domestic image mastery that we have not seen for many years, since the Reagan administration. Oh to be a fly on the wall of the White House press room tomorrow! It is now our presidents work to unify our nation as best he can,
so we can move forward in our war against Islamofascism.
Perhaps a few more media professionals will get behind him now, after they have had circles run around them on this one. One can hope.


20 posted on 07/17/2005 8:41:52 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: CHARLITE

Apparently, Judith Miller went to jail to protect one or more of the following choices: (take your choice)

Sources Judith Miller is protecting by going to jail:

1. Karl Rove
2. Dick Cheney
3. Colin Powell
4. Haliburton
5. Tom Delay
6. GW
7. Laura Bush and her twin daughters
8. Bush's Doggie
9. _____________ (Fill in the blank with any Republican!)
10. All of the above


28 posted on 07/17/2005 10:43:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM is trying to make us believe, Judith Miller is in jail to protect Karl Rove!)
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