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Killers may have been duped
News.com.au ^ | 7/17/05 | Staff

Posted on 07/17/2005 8:03:04 AM PDT by DogBarkTree

BRITISH police are considering the possibility that the four key suspects in last week's London attacks may have been tricked into setting off their bombs, a newspaper has reported.

"We do not have hard evidence that the men were suicide bombers," a Scotland Yard spokesman told The Sunday Telegraph. "It is possible that they did not intend to die." According to the paper, one police hypothesis is that the bombers were tricked by a "master" who told them they would have time to escape - when in fact the devices were set to go off immediately.

"The bombers' masters might have thought that they couldn't risk the four men being caught and spilling everything to British interrogators," an unnamed security official told the Telegraph.

Lending weight to the theory is the fact that all four men had paid up their parking tickets before boarding a train at Luton for King's Cross, and that they all bought return tickets to the capital.

Moreover, the paper said, the men were carrying their explosives inside rucksacks, as opposed to strapped to their bodies as is common practice among suicide bombers.

None were reported to have cried "Allah Akbar" (God is Greatest) before setting off their charge - something which most Middle Eastern suicide bombers do.


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To: DogBarkTree
I would like to urge every muslim to strap on an ALLAH VEST and set it off in their favorite crowed mosque so everyone gets their virgins at the same time.

A much more efficient solution. See? There's American ingenuity at work already!

21 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:27 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: DogBarkTree
This is total idiocy. These were Islamic fascist murderers. Why would the UK attempt to call them anything else but homicide terrorist bombers.
22 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:30 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: DogBarkTree; All
Didn't the plot in the book "The Little Drummer Girl" revolve around this sort of trickery? I seem to recall that it did, but it's been a really long time ago that I read the book, so I'm not sure.
23 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:55 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: DogBarkTree
There was a story early on that one of the bombers was peeking into the bag nervously.

New category - Islamo-fool.

24 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:59 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: DogBarkTree
Could they have purchased their round trip tickets to avoid any suspicion about 3 Middle-Eastern/Pakistani-looking men plus one black man going backpacking into London? Wouldn't the folks at the ticket counter in Leeds have thought that a mite strange if the 4 of them all bought only ONE WAY tix?

I honestly don't think they were stupid enough to think they could escape the blasts set off underground in the Tube.

25 posted on 07/17/2005 8:16:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DogBarkTree

The press should print a story about a Virgin shortage. Maybe the bombings would slow down a bit.


26 posted on 07/17/2005 8:17:13 AM PDT by JOE6PAK (..still crazy after all these BEERS!)
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To: DogBarkTree

I guess . .

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

. . doesn't apply for these guys.

Plus, this means they got screwed out of their share of the virgins.


27 posted on 07/17/2005 8:19:01 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: CondorFlight

Inneresting. Yeah, it could have been pucker-time for #4.


28 posted on 07/17/2005 8:19:59 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Yaelle

This is cool. This disinformation spread by the MSM will scare future suicide bombers away from "practice runs" and so forth, depriving the muslim masterminds of a source of recruits. Finally the MSM is using its lying ways to help the West.


29 posted on 07/17/2005 8:20:04 AM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: DogBarkTree
I speculated about this with a friend the day after the bombings. The subway bombs went off at 8:50. (to go off at 9am?) I think they were told they had 10 minutes to get away. I think the bus bomber chickened out, and there was another timer on the bombs which was set to go off an hour after the terrorist target time.

Of course no timers being found shoots my theory all to hell, and forces me to remove my tinfoil hat.
30 posted on 07/17/2005 8:20:10 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Booo Hooo Hooo ... The new liberal battle cry!)
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To: SamAdams76

Exactly...hope this line of thought takes root. Their Muslim brothers will be much harder on these wack jobs if it comes out that these four were dupes, and their murderous masters can't hold them us as models of martyrdom...just four dumb guys who took the bait. Wonder what they were promised for this mission?


31 posted on 07/17/2005 8:20:39 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Yaelle

Maybe they bought round trip tickets because that's what they always did. People are creatures of habit.

Personally I don't care if they were duped or not. They're dead now and answering to a Higher Court where claiming to be a victim of American Imperialism won't get them out of jail free.


32 posted on 07/17/2005 8:20:40 AM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: SamAdams76

Osama bin Laden had been laughing that most of the 9/11 bombers did not know they were on a suicide mission. Seems to have worked again.

Useful idiots? We have just dicovered the terrorist connection to liberals.

Osama bin Laden builds day care centers Patty Murray (D WA)


33 posted on 07/17/2005 8:20:45 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: CondorFlight

The bus guy wouldn't necessarily have known the timer was a phoney. He likely asumed his compatriots successfully set and left the scene, if all were trained that the packages had timers.


34 posted on 07/17/2005 8:23:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DogBarkTree

At times like this, I am reminded of The Onion's brilliant article following 9/11:

Hijackers Surprised To Find Themselves In Hell
by The Onion 9/26/01

"We Expected Eternal Paradise For This," Say Suicide Bombers

JAHANNEM, OUTER DARKNESS-The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest plane of Na'ar, Islam's Hell.

"I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers," said Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live coals infesting his stomach. "But instead, I am fed the boiling feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?"

The rest of Atta's words turned to raw-throated shrieks, as a tusked, asp-tongued demon burst his eyeballs and drank the fluid that ran down his face.

According to Hell sources, the 19 eternally damned terrorists have struggled to understand why they have been subjected to soul-withering, infernal torture ever since their Sept. 11 arrival.

"There was a tumultuous conflagration of burning steel and fuel at our gates, and from it stepped forth these hijackers, the blessed name of the Lord already turning to molten brass on their accursed lips," said Iblis The Thrice-Damned, the cacodemon charged with conscripting new arrivals into the ranks of the forgotten. "Indeed, I do not know what they were expecting, but they certainly didn't seem prepared to be skewered from eye socket to bunghole and then placed on a spit so that their flesh could be roasted by the searing gale of flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday."

"Which is strange when you consider the evil with which they ended their lives and those of so many others," added Iblis, absentmindedly twisting the limbs of hijacker Abdul Aziz Alomari into unspeakably obscene shapes.

"I was told that these Americans were enemies of the one true religion, and that Heaven would be my reward for my noble sacrifice," said Alomari, moments before his jaw was sheared away by faceless homunculi. "But now I am forced to suckle from the 16 poisoned leathern teats of Gophahmet, Whore of Betrayal, until I burst from an unwholesome engorgement of curdled bile. This must be some sort of terrible mistake."

Exacerbating the terrorists' tortures, which include being hollowed out and used as prophylactics by thorn-cocked Gulbuth The Rampant, is the fact that they will be forced to endure such suffering in sight of the Paradise they were expecting.

"It might actually be the most painful thing we can do, to show these murderers the untold pleasures that would have awaited them in Paradise, if only they had lived pious lives," said Praxitas, Duke of Those Willingly Led Astray. "I mean, it's tough enough being forced through a wire screen by the callused palms of Halcorym and then having your entrails wound onto a stick and fed to the toothless, foul-breathed swine of Gehenna. But to endure that while watching the righteous drink from a river of wine? That can't be fun."

Underworld officials said they have not yet decided on a permanent punishment for the terrorists.

"Eventually, we'll settle on an eternal and unending task for them," said Lord Androalphus, High Praetor of Excruciations. "But for now, everyone down here wants a crack at them. The legions of fang-wombed hags will take their pleasure on their shattered carcasses for most of this afternoon. Tomorrow, their flesh will be melted from their bones like wax in the burning embrace of the Mother of Cowards. The day after that, they'll be sodomized by the Fallen and their bowels shredded by a demonic ejaculate of burning sand. Then, on Sunday, Satan gets them all day. I can't even imagine what he's got cooked up for them."


35 posted on 07/17/2005 8:24:07 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth (God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.)
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To: DogBarkTree

From now on, whenever I go into McDonalds for a breakfast sandwich, I am going to point to the picture of the Sausage McMuffin with Egg and say, "Let me have one of those Allah Akbars, please."


36 posted on 07/17/2005 8:24:23 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DogBarkTree
The bus bomber was seen frantically fiddling with the device in the seconds before it went off. Did he figure out what was happening and tried to defuse it to save himself?

The masterminds of these stunts are heartless, and are well known to kill "their own".

That said, and if true, then there is a small measure of justice in the killers themselves perishing, unintentionally, and at their own hands.

37 posted on 07/17/2005 8:24:53 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: cripplecreek

They were "victiiiiiims"......(using a heavy sarcastic Michael Savage tone)


38 posted on 07/17/2005 8:28:11 AM PDT by antivenom (If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!!!)
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To: Mike Darancette

Hmmm... The timer is connected to the detonator. Huh? Where's the delay box? Isn't there supposed to be a delay box? Wait, here's the delay box, but it's wires go... [fumble, fumble] right back to itself. No wait, that can't be right... I think he wired it wrong, the delay box was supposed to be in this circuit here. I think there's some sort of mistaBOOM!!!!


39 posted on 07/17/2005 8:29:39 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: antivenom

I really couldn't care less if they were "duped" into blowing themselves up.


40 posted on 07/17/2005 8:29:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If a democrats lips are moving, they're lying.)
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