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To: milford421

Milford, it's easy to claim reading on the internet. Much harder to show it. If you have a real objection to my statement in post 30, lay it on me. Just don't drive by and insult me.


102 posted on 07/18/2005 2:00:35 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

Fair enough.

Have you done any internet reading on the subject?

You might want to start with the Quran. I would especially recommend the translations of Yusef Ali. In addition to Quranic quotes from post 48, try:

Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.”

Qur’an 60:1 “Believers, take not my enemies and yours as allies, offering them love, even though they have rejected the truth that has come to you, and have driven out the Prophet and you because you believe in Allah! If you have come out to struggle [fight jihad] in My Cause, and to seek My Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love with them: for I am aware of all you conceal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path. If they were to get the better of you, they would be your foes, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil (designs).”
Qur’an 60:5 “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.’”
Qur’an 48:13 “If any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared a Blazing Fire for them!”
Qur’an 48:28 “It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that he may make it superior to every other religion, exalting it over them. Allah is a sufficient Witness. Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah. Those who are with him are severe with Infidel unbelievers.”


Tabari VIII:130 “The Messenger said, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.’ Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled.”

There's more, but pretty specific on the concept of co-existence.

Then there's the jizya, sharia, current major bloody world conflicts involving muslims (14 at last count I believe)...

There are a number of sites you can visit for information, if you truly desire to be knowledgeable.

Your attempts to portray muslims as left out victims in the world seems pretty much akin to blaming the rape victim for provoking the rapist by dressing provocatively.

My intent was not to insult you, although it was to force you to gain some concrete information of the subject matter.


103 posted on 07/18/2005 3:52:24 PM PDT by milford421
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