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Rise in anti-Muslim attacks
The Sunday Times ^ | July 17, 2005 | Dipesh Gadher

Posted on 07/16/2005 3:44:05 PM PDT by MadIvan

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I am concerned this situation may slide into anarchy.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/16/2005 3:44:05 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 07/16/2005 3:44:23 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

"Faith-hate"?

If the Muslims feel they are not liked sufficiently, they might begin decrying the activities of their more enthusiastic members.

Or they could simply go back from whence they came.


3 posted on 07/16/2005 3:46:54 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: MadIvan

I can see how a person might lose faith in a process that responds to the bombings with making criticism of Islam illegal.


4 posted on 07/16/2005 3:48:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator (For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
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To: MadIvan

I don't see that, Ivan.

A bunch of politicans will do a little, and then there will be a pause until the next attack.

Welcome to the joys of multi culturalism.


5 posted on 07/16/2005 3:49:30 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: thoughtomator

You may not agree, but my sense of propriety suggests it's not on to spit on women and firebomb private property, even if it is a mosque.

Do I approve of the government's actions? No...they've been too soft on the imams and too hard on free speech. Is that, however, an endorsement of mob violence? No.

Regards, Ivan


6 posted on 07/16/2005 3:50:15 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Remember folks... In order to make the koran two-ply, just tear out two pages at once.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 3:50:51 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: MadIvan
Curious directionalism.

When the actions are against certain groups, they are labeled as hate crimes or race crimes.

When the actions are by cerrtain groups, they are not labeled as hate crimes or race crimes.

Beheading civilians seems hate-based.
Blowing up buses with civilians on them seems hate-based.
Blowing up trains with civilians on them seems hate-based.
Plowing hijacked airliners filled with civilians into buildings populated with civilians seems hate-based.

Maybe it is just my perception.

Perhaps we need a better PC definition of what hate-based is from the PC crowd. They seem rather one-sided in their accusatings of what is 'hate-based.'
8 posted on 07/16/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by TomGuy
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I am concerned this situation may slide into anarchy.

I'm hoping the spirit of King Richard will invigorate the "final" Crusade.

9 posted on 07/16/2005 3:55:09 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: TomGuy

Read the article - legislation is being proposed to clamp down on the imams based on their activities being "hate based".

I do wish people would read the bloody thing before commenting on it.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 07/16/2005 3:55:48 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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But last week [Muslim leaders] were criticised for failing to do enough to confront extremists within their own community.

Legitimate criticism. In fact, this is a world-wide problem and the main reason so many folks don't buy into the "it's just a small group of extremists who've hijacked Islam" bullsh/t.

11 posted on 07/16/2005 3:56:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I'm hoping the spirit of King Richard will invigorate the "final" Crusade.

I'm not. King Richard the Lionheart was a Frenchman who regarded England as his cash cow; he once said he would sell London if he could find a buyer.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 07/16/2005 3:57:01 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Gee, I wonder why?

;)


13 posted on 07/16/2005 3:57:23 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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they might begin decrying the activities of their more enthusiastic members.

Or they could simply go back from whence they came.

Sadly enough it's the third option they wish to coddle.

14 posted on 07/16/2005 3:58:31 PM PDT by EGPWS
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In fact, this is a world-wide problem and the main reason so many folks don't buy into the "it's just a small group of extremists who've hijacked Islam" bullsh/t.

Look at the bright side with an air of irony.

Their agenda has been stifled to point of complacency to the ill informed.

15 posted on 07/16/2005 4:01:41 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: MadIvan

That headline is really exciting. Great news.


16 posted on 07/16/2005 4:03:02 PM PDT by indcons (Koran - the world's first WMD)
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To: MadIvan
I am concerned this situation may slide into anarchy.

It is difficult for me to gauge the temperature of British public opinon about the bombings, in that I know only what I've been told by media. Do you believe there is enough anger to devolve the situation that far? And is that anger present in many Britons, or just a violent minority?
17 posted on 07/16/2005 4:03:17 PM PDT by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: MadIvan; snugs

I must say that having read quite a few articles about the multitude of Muslims in England, and their propensity to "speak out" about their beliefs,

have made me nervous for you and snugs, (and any other Brit freepers) for a long time...I see that Blair is trying to close that barn door, after the terrorists got out...

kind of like we have had to do here.

But, I have decided that both countried need to make it POLICY to profile from now on....and if the Muslim community doesn't like it, maybe THEN the so-called "good" Muslim leaders will finally speak out...

Until then, I am afraid that more such attacks will happen here and there...and I am so sorry for what ya'll went through last week.


18 posted on 07/16/2005 4:04:08 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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"I am concerned this situation may slide into anarchy."
Who said it: "Great order comes out of great disorder"?
19 posted on 07/16/2005 4:04:16 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: MadIvan

Then you missed the point of my post.

[Maybe you posted your comment without fulling reading my post.]


20 posted on 07/16/2005 4:06:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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