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To: thoughtomator

You may not agree, but my sense of propriety suggests it's not on to spit on women and firebomb private property, even if it is a mosque.

Do I approve of the government's actions? No...they've been too soft on the imams and too hard on free speech. Is that, however, an endorsement of mob violence? No.

Regards, Ivan


6 posted on 07/16/2005 3:50:15 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
You may not agree, but my sense of propriety suggests it's not on to spit on women and firebomb private property, even if it is a mosque.

Any rational person would agree with you. But history for the most part is not ruled by reason. We haven't reached the end of history when the lion will lie down with the lamb in peace.

I still haven't heard many people willing to ask the critical questions: is it possible for a medieval religion to integrate itself into Western society which through many bloody wars has for the most part succeeded in purging itself of medieval religious beliefs?

What is the average person supposed to do? Sit by passively while the governement lets more millions of Moslems immigrate to the West? If Moslems desire the material prosperity of the West, but detest our social values--equality for women, freedom of speech and religion, respect for individual rights and expression of thought, consensual secular government, then how is integration possible?

37 posted on 07/16/2005 4:20:53 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: MadIvan
Spot on. Spitting in the face of a muslim woman or firebombing a mosque does not inspire the rest of the muslim community to do anything to but hunker down and not become proactive.

Although, if more terrorism occurs, and if the muslims do not start speaking up vociferously, then I would say that those actions are but half-measures.

42 posted on 07/16/2005 4:25:35 PM PDT by yooling (A Møøse once bit my sister...)
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To: MadIvan

I agree with you. The wanton murder of innocents is no reason to be rude.


50 posted on 07/16/2005 4:31:29 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: MadIvan

You may not agree, but my sense of propriety suggests it's not on to spit on women and firebomb private property, even if it is a mosque.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to respond to 'please' and 'would you kindly'


70 posted on 07/16/2005 5:42:23 PM PDT by hardworking (Re-elect Hitlery and save money on redecorating the White House - she can bring the stuff back)
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