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General's talk of terrorist 'scumbags' praised
The Globe and Mail ^ | July 16, 2005 | DANIEL LEBLANC

Posted on 07/16/2005 1:02:57 PM PDT by mdittmar

OTTAWA -- Canada's blunt-talking top soldier won praise yesterday for his clear and sometimes brutal description of the coming military effort against terrorist "scumbags" in Afghanistan.

Defence analysts and politicians from the NDP and the Conservative Party said it is time for a military leader like General Rick Hillier, who speaks from the heart about the role of the Canadian Forces in the war on terror.

"Controlled anger, given what's happened, is an appropriate response," NDP Leader Jack Layton said. "We have a very committed, level-headed head of our armed forces, who isn't afraid to express the passion that underlies the mission that front-line personnel are going to be taking on.

"A bit of strong language in the circumstances, I don't find that to be wrong."

Conservative MP Gordon O'Connor said Gen. Hillier "speaks like a soldier, not a diplomat."

"He's starting to give the public an idea that the troops are about to go in a dangerous area and he's trying to explain why they're going there in the pursuit of terrorists," Mr. O'Connor said.

However, Gen. Hillier's vow to hunt down terrorists did ruffle some feathers. Maude Barlow, chairwoman of the Council of Canadians, said Canada should retain a more level-headed approach to events such as last week's terrorist attacks in London.

"I'm feeling it's time for people to be as calm as possible. . . . I would love Canada to play a thoughtful, moderating position in this," she said, denouncing Gen. Hillier's comments as "very aggressive."

In a media briefing two days ago, Gen. Hillier laid out the mission for the more than 2,000 troops who are headed to Afghanistan in the coming year: provide security in the country and, more importantly, go on the hunt for terrorists.

As part of the deployment, the Canadian Forces are sending commando soldiers from Joint Task Force 2 with the expectation that they will be involved in combat.

"We are going to Afghanistan to actually take down the folks that are trying to blow up men and women," Gen. Hillier said.

He also gave a blunt assessment of the role of the Canadian Forces, which he said are designed to protect Canadian interests at home and abroad.

"We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people," Gen. Hillier said.

The chairman of the Conference of Defence Associations, retired lieutenant-general Richard Evraire, praised the comments, although he said he was slightly taken aback by Gen. Hillier's statement that the Forces are designed to "kill people."

Mr. Evraire said the comments are evidence of a new style in the Canadian Forces, which he accused of camouflaging the truth about military operations in the past.

"It's true that it can be a bit surprising if we're not used to it," Mr. Evraire said. "I don't remember anyone else speaking like that. I think it's time to say things like they are."

Jocelyn Coulon, a military expert, said the Canadian Forces strived in recent decades to pretend they were only involved in peacekeeping operations.

"They never said in the past that people could actually die," said Mr. Coulon, a visiting professor at the University of Montreal's Centre for International Studies. "We need a military leader who is frank, even somewhat brutally so."

But Stephen Staples, a military analyst at the Ottawa-based, left-leaning Polaris Institute, said he found Gen. Hillier's comments "rather alarming."

"Are we seeing an Americanization of the Canadian Forces?" Mr. Staples asked.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canadiantroops; hillier; praise; scumbags
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"We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people," Gen. Hillier said.
1 posted on 07/16/2005 1:02:57 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I like this man. Salute to Gen. Rick Hillier!


2 posted on 07/16/2005 1:07:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: mdittmar
This is the famous quote:

"These are detestable murderers and scumbags. They detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties."

3 posted on 07/16/2005 1:08:44 PM PDT by rickmichaels (One Nation, Under God...)
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wow. I thought I was the only one who thought that way!!!


4 posted on 07/16/2005 1:12:47 PM PDT by bubman
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"Are we seeing an Americanization of the Canadian Forces?" Mr. Staples asked.

You better hope so, you weak kneed breast beating, bed wetting, hand wringer.

5 posted on 07/16/2005 1:13:25 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: rickmichaels

Thanks.


6 posted on 07/16/2005 1:13:29 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: rickmichaels

Beats "evildoers." It's good to see more and more in Canada are getting it. 'Canadistan' doesn't sound quite right.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 1:15:45 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Now they just need a Pattonization in addition to an Americanization, and they'll be set.


8 posted on 07/16/2005 1:15:59 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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Canada needs to step it up. General Hiller sounds like the right man!


9 posted on 07/16/2005 1:16:11 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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"Are we seeing an Americanization of the Canadian Forces?"

No you idiot. That was a warrior speaking not a girly-man.

10 posted on 07/16/2005 1:21:23 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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"There are those who might say that by doing that we make ourselves a target in Canada here for terrorists. I would come at it this way. . . . We need to take a stand."


Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier.

Now that's a Canadian Americans can trust.

11 posted on 07/16/2005 1:23:58 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Eagles Talon IV

I would add "wanker" to his descriptiom..


12 posted on 07/16/2005 1:24:39 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty (Crush the jihadists, drive their minions before you, and hear the whining of their mullahs!)
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Of course, how on earth could I forget that?


13 posted on 07/16/2005 1:26:09 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: John Filson; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; ...

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14 posted on 07/16/2005 1:26:46 PM PDT by Clive
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"However, Gen. Hillier's vow to hunt down terrorists did ruffle some feathers. Maude Barlow, chairwoman of the Council of Canadians, said Canada should retain a more level-headed approach to events such as last week's terrorist attacks in London.

"I'm feeling it's time for people to be as calm as possible. . . . I would love Canada to play a thoughtful, moderating position in this," she said, denouncing Gen. Hillier's comments as "very aggressive."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Hell, I peed my pants.

15 posted on 07/16/2005 1:33:25 PM PDT by sofaman
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OMG...she is NUTS.

Canada needs a whole lot more MEN like General Hillier.


16 posted on 07/16/2005 1:37:11 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve)
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I would add "wanker" to his descriptiom..

Wouldn't prissy, missy Staples require a wank to yank to deserve that descriptor?

If that pillow biter represents canadas 'manhood', the great white north will be depopulated within a couple of generations.

Here's praying General Hillier had a very fertile wife and many sons who follow in dads footsteps. Maybe they can save canada from the canadians.
17 posted on 07/16/2005 1:37:19 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Join islam, see the world. Blow up unrepentant infidels. Uncle Bin Laden wants you.)
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To: SE Mom

Agree completely


18 posted on 07/16/2005 1:40:30 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: mdittmar

ping


19 posted on 07/16/2005 1:44:22 PM PDT by Crush T Velour
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The general almost has it right. These people are, as Zell Miller would say, PIGS!

And the Brits would be well advised to scrape up the bones of the PIGS who were the Mohammedan suicide bombers, smear them in bacon grease, and entomb them outside the nearest mosque in a solid cylinder of steel reinforced concrete with a bronze plaque commemorating the fact that these four were PIGS!

20 posted on 07/16/2005 2:16:46 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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