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First Page Of New Harry Potter Book Takes Swipe At Bush
Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince | 7/16/05

Posted on 07/15/2005 10:25:17 PM PDT by Williams

Well the new Harry Potter book has arrived and I can report the first page of the first chapter contains an obvious jab at our president. The book begins with the British Prime Minister awaiting a phone call from the "President" of an unnamed distant country, and wondering when the "wretched man" would call.

As a fan of the books and for that matter of Rowling's personal story and success, I'm saddened that liberal madness had to invade this children's classic. The first chapter was otherwise perfectly enjoyable.

I'm not saying anything else in the chapter was intentionally connected to current events, but I had to draw the comparison with what has ended up in British headlines at the same time as the book release. In the book, the Prime Minister is dealing with unexplained events, at least some of which could be terrorist like. Indeed, they are the work of sinister forces. Whereas I'm sure in this book series, ultimate help will come from the wizarding world, in reality Britain needs the support of the leader J.K. Rowling refers to as that "wretched man." How sadly misguided.


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KEYWORDS: bookreview; bushhaters; harrpotter; harrypoofter; harrypotter; intellectualdwarfs; jkrowling; jktrolling; literaryfools; occulttrash; stupidbook; theosophybites
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To: Williams
Well the new Harry Potter book has arrived and I can report the first page of the first chapter contains an obvious jab at our president. The book begins with the British Prime Minister awaiting a phone call from the "President" of an unnamed distant country, and wondering when the "wretched man" would call.

Why on earth would you assume it was Bush? I am sorry but this is just plain stupid!

521 posted on 07/18/2005 1:26:58 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Junior
"I guess I should believe them too, huh?

Junior, down at your level of understanding, there is likely no difference.

522 posted on 07/18/2005 1:27:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Williams
Watch out, they are right behind you, getting ready to get you... I wonder if you ever traveled to UK, it is but a few hours in the plane, it takes longer to get to LA from NY than from NY to London. If she wanted to squeeze some politics she would have said something about the war...the mention is SO relative it is not a hint to something liberal as you think it is. You remind me of Ross Perot!
523 posted on 07/18/2005 1:30:12 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: editor-surveyor
And you're so much more wiser than us mere mortals.

I bow to your holier-than-thouness.

524 posted on 07/18/2005 1:30:33 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Durus
Please allow me to explain...by calling her works "derivative", I am talking about her style. Early on, I said that she is 10th rate Roald Dahl, overlaid with a few other English authors and she is.

When writing about wizards, children at an English boarding school ( no matter WHAT kind ), fantastical monsters, etc., there isn't anything new since ancient Celtic mythology. And THAT is NOT what I was talking about; even though I threw the come alive paintings into the mix.

And as far as Tolkin is concerned, he took all kinds of myths/characters, swirled them about, and came up with original stories, but, written in a NEW style, which was his own.

525 posted on 07/18/2005 2:31:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Williams
I'm not saying anything else in the chapter was intentionally connected to current events, but I had to draw the comparison with what has ended up in British headlines at the same time as the book release.

Unless she has formidable magical powers of her own, Rowling couldn't have been writing the book for the last two years based on the headlines at the time of its release.

Let alone the last thirteen years, if you believe what Rowling says about that first chapter. Which I'm inclined to do. If I were Rwoling, as soon as I had the concept, I'd be thinking about the intersection of the wizard and muggle worlds, and how to make the suspension of disbelief plausible. She just couldn't work it into the narrative until now.

In the most rabid fan debate circles, there's a running debate over when the Harry Potter books are set. If Harry's first year is when Rowling first had the idea, then book six is still solidly in the Clinton years.

But that speculation is silly because the time is deliberately vague -- I don't recall much muggle technology more modern than telephones, power drills and toasters. There is an enchanted Ford Anglia, which means we're talking about the 50s at earliest. Something might have slipped from my memory, but I don't recall any computers, mobile phones, PDAs, or even digital watches and pocket calculators.

That's both wise marketing and an aesthetic decision. You don't need to be too specific or write anything that will get dated. Great juvenile fiction stands the test of time. Rowling's work could be at the same time as Roald Dahl's -- I've always thought the two were very similar -- though they were written decades apart.

But back to politics.

If you've finished the first chapter, it's difficult to see how you can see it as a partisan dig, no matter whom you assign to which role -- the Prime Minister is befuddled and largely ineffectual, the opposition leader an opportunist exploiting tragedy for political gain. No one is noble. It's an easy dig on all politicians, not an endorsement of any one over any other. And part of that general dismissal of politicians is that the PM is dreading a call from the "dreadful man" he smiles at and slaps on the back in public.

I haven't finished book 6 yet, so I'll focus on Book 5, in which it becomes obvious that Rowling is a pro-Bush Tory through and through.

(Spoiler space just in case folks haven't read book 5 yet)











A devious evil, which is obvously meant to represent Islamic terror, has risen. The bumbling feel-good bureaucrats in the Ministry of Magic (clearly the Clinton administraton) refuse to believe it until it strikes on their own soil, by which time it has infiltrated and corrupted the Ministry itself. They finally accept the truth, but only after many losses and even then they are equivocal and ineffective at fighting it until (in book 6) replaced by a hawkish leader.

Bottom line: It's kid fiction. Very, very good kid fiction, but if you squint hard enough you can find anything in it. It's a silly exercise, just as it is when some know-it-all college sophomore goes looking for exemples of Marxist dialectic in Hop on Pop.

526 posted on 07/18/2005 2:46:56 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Junior

My response was gauged to the nature, and ingenuousness of your question.


528 posted on 07/18/2005 3:38:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Williams
...children's classic.

Little early for that, I'd say.

529 posted on 07/18/2005 3:39:23 PM PDT by Petronski (So, ma cherie, you like ze boum boum?)
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To: Williams

What a stupid post. There are plenty of wretched presidents, including (for example) Robert Mugabe. You're free to read in a swipe at Bush if you want, but it's a pretty lame thing to do. (It's hard, for example, to call him the president of "a far distant land," which the US is not....)


530 posted on 07/18/2005 3:42:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: tstaddon
"Given time you'll be like us Brits..."

I pray to God that never happens; I'm deeply saddened by what has happened to Britain's soul in my lifetime.

531 posted on 07/18/2005 3:44:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: tstaddon
Comment #527 Removed by Moderator

Darn it, your reply to me was deleted by the moderator...makes me wonder what sort of imbecile response did you manage to give that made the moderator suspend your account as well!

532 posted on 07/18/2005 5:16:33 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ichneumon

could not agree more


533 posted on 07/19/2005 11:48:07 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"Once heard an interview with Rowling, who was talking about when they chose the Director of the first movie and how she gave pause when she found out he was an American.

Maybe she has the same view of Hollywood that freepers do.

534 posted on 07/19/2005 11:55:52 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Williams
The book begins with the British Prime Minister awaiting a phone call from the "President" of an unnamed distant country, and wondering when the "wretched man" would call.

Who's to say it isn't Chirac?

535 posted on 07/19/2005 11:58:02 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Williams

Well, it couldn't be Tony Blair and W, they are fast friends.


536 posted on 07/19/2005 12:04:07 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: nopardons

My daughter, who loves Harry Potter, recently found my old copy of "King Solomon's Mines." She loved that also.


537 posted on 07/19/2005 12:24:37 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree

Give her a copy of "SHE"; your daughter will enjoy that as well.


538 posted on 07/19/2005 12:36:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I've not heard of that one, will check it out. Thanks.


539 posted on 07/19/2005 12:40:08 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree

H.Ridder Haggard wrote "SHE", "THE RETURN OF SHE", and "KING SOLOMON'S MINES". They're all great books. :-)


540 posted on 07/19/2005 1:40:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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