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Tancredo clarifies 'ultimate response'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 7/15/05 | Art Moore

Posted on 07/15/2005 4:51:12 PM PDT by Man50D

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To: elli1
I think that advocating the destruction of a city of half a million or more people and a holy site to boot, is radical. And stupid.


Responding to 9/11 with a strategy against a gangs with RPGs, that has taken longer than it took us to beat tens of millions of professional German and Japanese troops and thousands of their planes tanks and ships... is sooo stupid.

Had the President, on 9/12, given Tehran 24 hours to go camping and then Nuked it, we would have WON the WOT on 9/13. Saving half a trillion dollars and thousands of causalities of our highly trained troops.
101 posted on 07/17/2005 7:34:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: fallujah-nuker
"Hamburg (July/August 1943), Dresden (February 1945), Kobe (February 1945), Tokyo (February 1945), and finally Hiroshima and Nagasaki (August 1945). WWII ended in 1945.


I for one love your research.

Could have been "Tehran ( September 2001), Baghdad (October 2001), WOT ended in 2001."
102 posted on 07/17/2005 7:41:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: DTogo
nor are their employers for hiring them ILLEGALLY

Just for the record, in many areas potential employers are not permitted to ask enough questions to establish legal status without getting sued (and losing) for discrimination. All they can ask is that you show a Social Security card, which is pretty easy to buy counterfeit).

103 posted on 07/17/2005 7:46:35 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Paladin2

Many Christians have "Stop War Now!" signs outside their homes/churches. I have yet to see a "Stop Jihad Now!" sign ANYWHERE



Need bumper stickers, Shirts, Hats... great idea.


104 posted on 07/17/2005 7:46:54 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: af_vet_1981

On April 20, 2005, why did Sen. Allen vote against S. Amdt. 516 to H.R. 1268? The amendment provided $390 million to hire 650 more border patrol agents, 250 new immigration investigators, and 168 new immigration enforcement agents and deportation officers. The amendment provided funds for 2,000 additional detention beds as well as funding to train the new personnel. The amendment passed by a vote of 65 to 34. The Repbulican senators that voted for the amendment included Senators Coburn, Cornyn, Craig, Crapo, Domenici, Grassley, Gregg, Inhofe, Isakson, Kyl, Roberts, Santorum, Sessions, Snowe, Sununu, Talent, Thune and Vitter.


105 posted on 07/17/2005 7:53:02 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: fallujah-nuker

I bought a Disney DVD a few months ago with cartoons from WW2, it also has a animated movie titled "Victory through Airpower" featuring Alexander Seversky. I highly recommend it, he talks of targeting the enemies food supply. I remember during the Vietnam War the fifth column (e.g. Jane Fonda, Joan Baez, Ramsey Clark) was outraged when we bombed NVA AAA placed on dikes because it imperiled North Vietnam's food supply, and thinking if that were the case we should hit the dikes anyway.

If you can find the February 1946 issue of National Geographic there is an article by Hap Arnold titled "Air Power for Peace" where lays out a strategy of annihilating opponents. You can see in WW2 we had a real will to win that is not matched today.



Its funny how our govenment does not produce videos like that today, when we are at war. Not even War Bonds. Not even bombing Syria, which offers sanctuary to our enemies.

Kill them in their homeland before they cross the border.


106 posted on 07/17/2005 7:53:14 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Do you support giving legal status to illegal aliens?

Do you support using the United States military to enforce the border with Mexico?

What has Sen. Allen said about the Mexican border that causes you to say that you hope he will make Mexico an offer it can't refuse?


107 posted on 07/17/2005 7:56:38 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: hosepipe

[ The congressman replied: "There are things you could threaten to do before something like that happens, and then you have to do afterwards, that are quite draconian." ]
Nukeing Mecca is not draconian..

Nukeing the primary city in EVERY country thats not our ally, for the first offense. For a second offense nukeing 10 citys in every country not our ally is draconian..

But quite doable.. and straight to the point.. They don't even have to be Hydrogen bombs.. Theater nukes would do.. to make the point..



Ex ACT Leeee. Draconian is good, piecemeal is Vietnamism. Time is not on our side!

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108 posted on 07/17/2005 7:57:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Man50D

Let's suppose a nuke went off in NYC. The correct thing to do is to give Mecca's population a 30 notice, and THEN nuke it.


109 posted on 07/17/2005 8:00:15 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: Kay Ludlow

Yet another way the ACLU is undermining our country.


110 posted on 07/17/2005 8:03:12 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: elli1
The idea is to put 'getting a life' (control over one's own destiny) within the grasp of a people. Once they get ahold of the idea and make steps in that direction, a lot more is at stake. There is more to lose. And a lot more incentive to oppose the internal forces that would threaten them back into the stone age.




Seems like years of bloody warfare in the Pacific against the japanese didn't accomplish much, but lo and behold, just 2 MUSHROOMS rising from their cities and we put 'getting a life' (control over one's own destiny) within the grasp of a people of Japan. At the same time we gave them "incentive to oppose the internal forces that would threaten them back into the stone age." Its not Carrot and Stick, its FIRST the stick, then they appreciate the carrot much more.
111 posted on 07/17/2005 8:04:37 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Reminding you that the US is not in sole possession of 'the stick'. Nuking Mecca would be a de facto declaration of war vs Saudi Arabia/ Islam and the results would most likely be the fall of all governments in the region seen to be even quasi-friendly to the US... Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan... And what a wonderful situation for China to exploit.


112 posted on 07/18/2005 4:24:06 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Man50D

If Tancredo wants to feel stupid about anything, it should be for falling for a WingNutDaily "article" designed to pimp a book.


113 posted on 07/18/2005 4:30:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Do you know how to play golf ?


114 posted on 07/18/2005 8:10:04 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: John Filson
>>>> .... I'd like to find out more about [Tancredo's] other policies.

Tom Tancredo is a solid conservative and a loyal Republican. He is a pro-lifer, pro-defense, tax reformer and supporter of limited government. Tancredo supported the reelection of Bush/Cheney and generally supports the President's policies.

On the issue of illegal immigration, Cong Tancredo agrees with most Americans and parts ways with the President and the vast majority of politicos. He believes our borders should be sealed, employers who hire illegals should be prosecuted and illegals aren't entitled to government welfare handouts.

115 posted on 07/18/2005 10:10:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Man50D
What a relief. I was terrified he might have offended some Muslims!

It's worse than that. He offended the Official Center-Right Speech Monitor of the GOP- Hugh Hewitt. Now the officially approved center-right bloggers are after Tancredo's head. Which is something they have wanted to do ever since Tancredo embarrased President Bush over the illegal immigration issue.

116 posted on 07/18/2005 10:28:01 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Reagan Man; Taft in '52; Osage Orange; datura; CHARLITE; Pikamax; Clive; Willie Green; ...
On the issue of illegal immigration, Cong Tancredo agrees with most Americans and parts ways with the President and the vast majority of politicos.

Listening to Barry Goldwater's 1964 RNC nomination acceptance speech, one realizes that President Bush is trying to follow the guidelines laid forth by Goldwater 41 years ago.

But the world has changed. China has abandoned its ambitions for pure collectivism for state-organized capitalism. Latin America is closer to North America than ever before, but illegal immigration has swamped us with Hispanic immigrants. The successes of capitalism have opened up new threats. And the very multiculturalism many Americans thought we needed in the rush to abolish racism left our borders open to an Islamic immigration invasion.

The global realpolitik have the Machiavellians in the State Department working overtime again, making the same kinds of compromises Goldwater attacked in 1964.

Who could have predicted these developments, many of which are the direct result of conservative successes? We must move forward, beyond 1964 and craft a new vision for America's future. Surrender to political correctness should be forgotten. CAFTA, NAFTA, and MFN status for China should be forgotten.

And yes, we must close the borders now.

117 posted on 07/18/2005 10:50:15 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Filson
The words of Barry Goldwater in 1964 exhibited a political conservative with a libertarian streak running through him. But his words and his politics didn't help him in the 64 election. He lost in an embarrassing landslide.

And sadly, with the passing of time Goldwater became an apologist for Bill Clinton, a supporter of special rights for homosexuals and a pro-abortion advocate.

PresBush has shown his unwillingness to properly address the issue of illegals immigration. He continues to thumb his nose at the American people, US law and our Constitution.

118 posted on 07/19/2005 7:33:35 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

CAFTA is essentially identified in Barry's speech. During the Cold War it was probably a good idea.


119 posted on 07/19/2005 8:12:24 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: elli1
Reminding you that the US is not in sole possession of 'the stick'. Nuking Mecca would be a de facto declaration of war vs Saudi Arabia/ Islam and the results would most likely be the fall of all governments in the region seen to be even quasi-friendly to the US... Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan... And what a wonderful situation for China to exploit.

Fall ?

Of course they would fall.

They would fall or surrender.

It would be a nuclear holocaust for any that did not fall or surrender.

120 posted on 07/19/2005 7:23:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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