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(Clown) Wilson clarifies comment about wife's C-I-A role
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Posted on 07/15/2005 1:53:20 PM PDT by golfboy

WASHINGTON The husband of the C-I-A agent whose cover was blown is clearing up some confusion over a comment he made to C-N-N.

Joseph Wilson said yesterday that his wife, Valerie Plame, "was not a clandestine officer the day Bob Novak blew her identity."

Today, he says he was only pointing out that once her identity was blown, his wife lost her ability to be a covert agent. He says he wasn't suggesting that she had stopped working undercover for the C-I-A beforehand.

Wilson is continuing his attack on White House adviser Karl Rove, for discussing his wife with columnist Novak and Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper. The discussion came just days after Wilson had written in The New York Times that some of the administration's intelligence on Iraq's nuclear weapons was twisted to exaggerate the threat.


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To: ohioWfan
Am I the only one who finds this particular Dem escapade more amusing than anything they've ever done?

I don't know about anyone else .. but I'm LMBO

He's almost as good as Dean

101 posted on 07/15/2005 2:27:38 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Night Hides Not
Was Valerie Plame's name on the NOC list that Ethan Hunt pilfered from the CIA in Mission Impossible?

ROFLOL! You owe me a keyboard!

102 posted on 07/15/2005 2:27:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: golfboy
" A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee.

"She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.

"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."

Mr. Rustmann, who spent 20 of his 24 years in the agency under "nonofficial cover" -- also known as a NOC, the same status as the wife of Mr. Wilson -- also said that she worked under extremely light cover.

In addition, Mrs. Plame hadn't been out as an NOC since 1997, when she returned from her last assignment, married Mr. Wilson and had twins, USA Today reported yesterday.

The distinction matters because a law that forbids disclosing the name of undercover CIA operatives applies to agents that had been on overseas assignment "within the last five years."

"She was home for such a long time, she went to work every day at Langley, she was in an analytical type job, she was married to a high-profile diplomat with two kids," Mr. Rustmann said. "Most people who knew Valerie and her husband, I think, would have thought that she was an overt CIA employee."

Rove fight escalates

103 posted on 07/15/2005 2:27:55 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: ohioWfan

Brings to mind the deer in the headlights...never sees it coming. Before he's slammed.


104 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:20 PM PDT by swheats
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To: golfboy

All Clown Wilson & one Ms. Plame need now do is themselves offer up recusal / confidentiality releases for Judith Miller at the NTY so she can testify and explain why she was willing to go to jail to protect their fraudulent stories.


105 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:46 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Discredited manure sells with the left and uneducated public, just ask Michael Moore. But there are limits. Wilson is trying to make this burst balloon still appear full. If he can count on the media to continue carrying him on their shoulders, he can at least salvage something. They seem to be wavering.
106 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:52 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: ohioWfan
ROFLOL! You owe me a keyboard!

You flatter me...put in on my tab... ;^D

107 posted on 07/15/2005 2:29:47 PM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Jonah Johansen
REDUNDANCY ALERT

Yes my FRiend!

(grovel, grovel)

108 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:09 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Mo1
Close, but not the kiss of close.

Dean is the BEST thing that ever happened to the Republican party. Even the clip they played yesterday from his appearance at the NAALCP yesterday made him sound like a bozo!

Wilson, is just a sweating pathological liar............more in the style of algor. :)

109 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: lugsoul
It would be odd if all that could've been avoided with a curt conclusion that she didn't fall within the statute.

That would appear to be the case.

"clandestine" "covert" Wilson seems to be playing with words as did he who "did not have "sex" with that woman".

110 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:42 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: golfboy

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why the MSM and the Dims thought they could get by with this "scandal"!


111 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:44 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: lugsoul

from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/wbr.01.html

BLITZER: But the other argument that's been made against you is that you've sought to capitalize on this extravaganza, having that photo shoot with your wife, who was a clandestine officer of the CIA, and that you've tried to enrich yourself writing this book and all of that.

What do you make of those accusations, which are serious accusations, as you know, that have been leveled against you?

WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

BLITZER: But she hadn't been a clandestine officer for some time before that?

WILSON: That's not anything that I can talk about. And, indeed, I'll go back to what I said earlier, the CIA believed that a possible crime had been committed, and that's why they referred it to the Justice Department.

She was not a clandestine officer at the time that that article in "Vanity Fair" appeared. And I have every right to have the American public know who I am and not to have myself defined by those who would write the sorts of things that are coming out, being spewed out of the mouths of the RNC...


I appreciate your desire for precision, but I do not understand your point. The last paragraph seems to be a total non sequitur. Wilson must have known perfectly well what Blitzer was trying to confirm, namely, since she had not been a cladestine agent in a foreign country for over 5 years at the time she was identified as CIA, nobody broke the law. He is clearly wriggling, by introducing irrelevant material. Strangely, his answer is to the questions that Blitzer has yet to ask!! --
"I have every right to have the American public know who I am and not to have myself defined by those who would write the sorts of things that are coming out, being spewed out of the mouths of the RNC..."

Blitzer then obliges by asking the question:

"BLITZER: Who did you vote for in 2000?"

I would swear the phrase "defined by" was in answer to Couric's question about whether he is a Democrat. Can anybody verify.

The whole interchange with Blitzer is bizarre. Wilson's clarification does not clarify anything, except that if someone is known to work for the CIA and their picture shows up in Vanity Fair they are not likely to sent anytime soon on a covert operation. I kind of doubt that anybody was sending the wife of an Ambassador on a cladestine operation period. Once she married Wilson her cover was blown!


112 posted on 07/15/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I frequently flatter people for financial gain. ;)


113 posted on 07/15/2005 2:31:43 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Night Hides Not
You flatter me...put in on my tab... ;^D

Oops! ...put it on my tab... ;^D

114 posted on 07/15/2005 2:31:55 PM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Mo1
He's almost as good as Dean

Dean, if he sees your posting will react with a great big YEAAAHHHH!!!!

115 posted on 07/15/2005 2:32:14 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: golfboy
Did anyone see Wolf Blitzer's "report" today? The opening story was one long "Look over here, not at the facts!" BS session, in which he basically said "Rove didn't reveal a covert agent BUT IT'S THE COVERUP!!!!!!!" and went into a history of "coverups"...without stopping to explain how THIS story involved any covering up.

Where is the coverup when a person releases all reporters to testify about what he said about them?

Blitzer is of course one of the libbies, but I felt he could be fair when he wanted. I was literally laughing out loud at this story, it's such a DNC hackjob.

116 posted on 07/15/2005 2:32:39 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon?)
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To: concerned about politics

Uh.....he's a democrat. Is that a rhetorical question?
_______________________________________

Yeah ultimately it was rhetorical. I sit here and shake my head about someone who has clearly been in over his head during all of this.


117 posted on 07/15/2005 2:32:59 PM PDT by JLS
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To: golfboy

placemark


118 posted on 07/15/2005 2:33:11 PM PDT by Maigrey (Prayer Warrior... just a ping away!)
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To: Kennard
Actually, that was Wolf's chosen word, not Wilson's.

And my point in making the distinction is that for purposes of the statute, 'covert' has a specific legal definition, while 'clandestine' could just mean her job was kept under wraps. For example, the five-year foreign posting requirement would have nothing to do with whether one was 'clandestine.'

119 posted on 07/15/2005 2:33:12 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
At least a couple of people have noted that, in the context of the question he was answering, this appeared to be what he was saying.

I don't see how that can be a reasonable interpretation of his remarks. If the relevant part of the CNN transcript is what is shown here, then Wilson uses the phrasing "was not a clandestine officer" followed by a description of the day or time when she was not a clandestine officer twice within the space of a few seconds. To believe Wilson's revisionist interpretation of what he was saying, you would have to accept that he used essentially identical wording within an interval of a few breaths to mean two completely different things.

First, Wilson states:

My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

Then he states:

She was not a clandestine officer at the time that that article in Vanity Fair appeared.

So, if one were to twist the first sentence to mean that as of the instant when Bob Novak blew her secret identity she was no longer a clandestine officer, but she might have been before and up to that very instant, you would have egg on your face if you tried to claim that that's what he also meant in the closely-following statement about her status at the time when the article appeared in Vanity Fair. That's a mighty big one to swallow, isn't it?

If, in Wilson's mind, the mere act of revealing her CIA connection caused her to no longer be a clandestine agent, then wouldn't that have occurred when her identity was first known to have been revealed, purportedly by Aldrich Ames to various Communist government agents? Or, does she continue to be a clandestine officer while her cover has been blown to enemies of the United States, but only ceases to be a clandestine officer when her identity is revealed to United States citizens? The absurdity of that is self-evident, isn't it? You can't be deflowered twice, can you?

120 posted on 07/15/2005 2:33:28 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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