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UK: Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Guardian ^ | 07/15/05 | Hugh Muir

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax

Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'

Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005

Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.

As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.

It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.

The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.


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KEYWORDS: koranimals; londonattacked; paybackisabitch; soccer
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To: commonasdirt; Prince Charles; danmar; JimRed
It's time the planet is cured of the worldwide mental illness known as Islam. Destroy every Islamic holy site. Vaporize Mecca, Medina, Qom, Damascus, Tehran, Islamabad and their disgusting mosque in our "Holy City" of Jerusalem.

Demonstrate to them that Allah, their filthy moon-god, is worthless and impotent. Destroying their faith is the only way to win this war.

Think Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, Berlin and Dresden. We haven't had much trouble from the Japanese and Germans lately.

5000 years of recorded history proves conclusively that "Peace" can never be "negotiated". The losers must beg for it.

81 posted on 07/14/2005 7:22:19 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: William Creel
Umm, so?

Really, more power to them I say. The muslims can't scream about hate crime...

82 posted on 07/14/2005 7:22:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: commonasdirt

You can't be serious. You may claim to be "commonasdirt", but does your head need to be stuck permanently in it???


83 posted on 07/14/2005 7:23:49 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: commonasdirt
Do women and children fall onto your suitable target list.

They did in Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and guess what? We won the war. In Vietnam we allowed the enemy to hide behind skirts and see where that got us. If the Muslims want to protect their woman and children they can return to their homeland. Great Britain is a small crowded island, it is not her obligation to function as lebensraum for Muslim nations that double in population every 20 years.
84 posted on 07/14/2005 7:24:03 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (On September 11th they hit our cities, we should level theirs.)
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To: Pikamax
Typical of Anglo Saxons, the wild ones(Berserkers), attack first. The rest will follow later after a few more instances of Non-European attacks.

As an aside, curious how the so called leadership will do anything but start deporting the little darlings back to the third world. Deportation would avoid the coming slaughter, destruction of property and general anarchy.

85 posted on 07/14/2005 7:27:00 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: commonasdirt

The people replying to you obviously have no notion of who these hooligans are.

The organised hooligan wing of the BNP and National Front is an organisation known as Combat 18. The 18 component in the name derives from the Adolf Hitler's initials being depicted numerically (1st and 8th letter of the alphabet) which gives an idea of where they're coming from.

Be sure that while their focus may well be on muslims, they won't make too much distinction between their quarry and any Hindu, black or Jew they find along the way. In short they are Neo-nazi proponents of Himmler's theory of racial superiority.


86 posted on 07/14/2005 7:33:36 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Stonewall Jackson; tomkow6; All

OH TOMKOW do you want go to England LOL!


87 posted on 07/14/2005 7:34:11 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Pikamax
Just don't send the Ballet Hooligans!


88 posted on 07/14/2005 7:35:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Zack Nguyen; All

Dont' forget Raider fans and Detriot Piston fans for all tick off that Piston lost in this season LOL!


89 posted on 07/14/2005 7:36:53 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Pikamax

Let me see if I understand this. The left in England don't care about the bombings, aren't the least bit angry at the Muslims there for it, and are generally not Soccer fans. Have I got it right?


90 posted on 07/14/2005 7:38:53 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: SauronOfMordor
I'm inclined to agree. There will be a sea change in the way that British politics deals with this either way you look at it.

There is a dark undercurrent of violence here that I don't think even the British Muslims fully appreciate. Were the damage limited to a few arrogant young men in beards getting their silly noses deservedly and belatedly punched I really wouldn't have a problem with it. It isn't likely to be. And that's a problem.

It is the older men in beards who have been fomenting this who need to be leaned on, opposed, shouted down, deported. If it isn't settled there it will be on the streets and all the multiculti tongue-cluckers will be shocked at the level of nastiness they thought they could prevent with a turned-up nose and condescending words.

91 posted on 07/14/2005 7:41:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CeDex
Here's some fact checking, smarter-than-the-rest-of-us-guy!

2 million Muslims in the UK, 2.7% of population (2001 census, many more today.) 607,083 in London, 8.5% of the residents (again, many more today.) 6000+ awaiting their asylum requests. (Escapees from Egypt and other places - they must all be dissident democrats, yes?) And this is not 'mass migration'? Since you know it all, tell us how many there were 50 years ago. 100? How many migrants from all of the Communist countries are in the UK? Or from France, why not? South America? And what are unassimilated Muslims, by birth and upbringing hostile to other religions doing in a Christian country?

92 posted on 07/14/2005 7:45:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Josh in PA

Then maybe we should hire them to protect America from the loonies and perverts the courts let loose.


93 posted on 07/14/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Argus

Agreed. The age of the vigilante may be around the corner. Take it from an ex-cop fed up with the courts.


94 posted on 07/14/2005 7:48:56 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Pikamax

Michael Savage has been calling on soccer hooligans to be unleashed upon the Muslim street terrorists in England for the past six months.


95 posted on 07/14/2005 7:51:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Fledermaus

How dare you! Profiling, indeed, how racist just because they are Muslims with bombs! (sarcasm)


96 posted on 07/14/2005 7:53:07 PM PDT by pankot
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To: CeDex
"Mass" immigration? UK Muslims make up 2.7% of the population (0.8% in Scotland). Hardly sounds "Mass" to me...

In the UK, over 8% of the population is foreign born. I would call that a mass migration of population.

But if you think you're gonna see thousands of old Pakistani men sitting around smoking hookas in Torquay, you obviously know nothing about the UK and have never been there.

The Muslims who blew up those trains weren't smoking hookas. Nor were they immigrants They were native born into an immigrant population that Britain has failed to assimilate, and quite possibly never will.

Try some fact-checking and "keeping it real" for a change...

If you think that Muslims blowing up trains isn't real because statistically only 0.00002% of Muslims in the UK have participated in violent acts of mass murder, perhaps you need to "get real" and admit that the UK has not only an immigration problem, but a fundamental cultural problem.

Those Muslims killed over 50 people. If you want to play a statistics game, that is only 0.00008% of the population. But in my part of the world we don't call that an insignificant statistical aberration.

97 posted on 07/14/2005 7:55:10 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: fallujah-nuker

"They did in Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and guess what?"

How do legitimate acts by the military in wartime have anything to with vigilante mob violence? And as to birthrates, Yeah I suppose kicking out every non-white in the country will indeed solve the problem for you.


98 posted on 07/14/2005 7:57:43 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: RightOnline

That is the best you can come up with....well a suppose it is. A legitimate debatable response would take some actual thought on your part.


99 posted on 07/14/2005 7:59:31 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Pikamax
I know we couldn't count on synchronized swimming fans, but what about professional wrestling fans?


100 posted on 07/14/2005 8:00:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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