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UK: Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Guardian ^ | 07/15/05 | Hugh Muir

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax

Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'

Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005

Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.

As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.

It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.

The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: koranimals; londonattacked; paybackisabitch; soccer
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To: Dave Elias
While we are at it were you equally indignant with respect to the general Catholic culpability in IRA attrocities?

Nope, any similarity between the two sets is a function of your febrile little (as in chicken) imagination.

241 posted on 07/15/2005 5:50:32 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: papertyger

Were you indignant?


242 posted on 07/15/2005 5:52:22 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Dave Elias
Were you indignant?

Do I have to draw you a picture?

I have no intention of giving validation to any premise you will use to accuse me of hypocracy.

There is no, none, zero, nada, valid parallels to Mohammedenism. It is unique in human experience. Any similarities between it and anything else are strictly coincidental.

If you are too dull to comprehend these facts, perhaps you should try listening instead of evaluating, as you clearly have no talent for it.

243 posted on 07/15/2005 6:02:19 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: commonasdirt
I take it you are saying you have no problem supporting attacks on anyone whose skin tone differs from yours?

What makes you think they wouldn't target simply those responsible for inciting anti-West violence? There are a million miles between that and "attacking anyone whose skin tone differs from yours."

244 posted on 07/15/2005 6:02:27 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Keep reading HG....believe me, the FReepers put this person in their place ;0)


245 posted on 07/15/2005 6:05:12 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: papertyger

Were you indignant or did you support the IRA


246 posted on 07/15/2005 6:06:31 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: papertyger

Were you indignant?


247 posted on 07/15/2005 6:07:16 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Dave Elias

BTW...the neo-nazi filth are MUCH better than the Islamic whack-jobs.


248 posted on 07/15/2005 6:07:54 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: righttackle44

I used to have a buddy in the movie business and he went to Phoenix constantly. He said that Charles liked a good bar fight.


249 posted on 07/15/2005 6:12:38 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: refermech
Oh okay.  I thought maybe you were it Italy or Australia or any other of the "coalition" countries.  They are probably on high alert right now.

Thanks.

250 posted on 07/15/2005 6:14:03 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: papertyger

Why do you think they are better?


251 posted on 07/15/2005 6:16:01 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: papertyger
Keep reading HG....believe me, the FReepers put this person in their place ;0)

Damn, I hate when I'm late to a thread. I see someone threw the Godwin flag on him!

252 posted on 07/15/2005 6:16:57 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: cajungirl
"I was thinking FR needs its own football hooligans"

Who Wants It?

253 posted on 07/15/2005 6:38:25 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Blues Brothers: Chelsea, Linfield, Rangers)
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To: Dave Elias
Why do you think they are better?

Are you such a moral castrato that it has to be cataloged for you?

I think the lack of adherents so chauvanistic that they'll spend their own lives to kill those who are utterly indifferent to their ideology is quite sufficient to make the point.

Granted, it's a distinction between bad and worse, but to make them equivalent is unconscionable. I've heard no reports of neo-nazis sawing off the heads of their victims.

254 posted on 07/15/2005 6:46:25 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: Pikamax
This is the first step. Wait until the 'football hooligans" organize, plan, and train. Once focused there is an enormous amount of threat and energy there.

The government's apparently inability to effectively deal with terrorism will inevitably result in vigilantism. I'm not saying I think its right but vigilantes are inevitable if governments who keep avoiding dealing with the problem.

255 posted on 07/15/2005 7:31:33 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: Pete98
Who is CURRENTLY blowing up dozens (or thousands) of people whose skin tone is different from theirs, all over the world?

You dont understand them sir. Islam is very good at uniting people of all other races - to gang up against "defilers of Islam". They'd've hated the west, even if all of us were of dark skinned african ancestry.

256 posted on 07/15/2005 8:51:18 AM PDT by Analog Artist (My thoughts are like silvery liquid metal floating through infinite white space in zero gravity..)
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To: An Old Marine

What do the Islamists and their cheer squad expect, mass conversions when they are killing men, women and children at random?

We shouldn't live in fear of these freaks and the common person should have some recourse to prevent and discourage these hate filled animals.

Can the police and government really protect them?


257 posted on 07/15/2005 9:12:15 AM PDT by Jetblack21
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To: Jetblack21
Can the police and government really protect them?

Certainly, but not the way they are going about it. Wars (and don't let anyone kid you we're in a war to the finish with these people) are won by convincing the other guy that to accept any peace offered. This isn't done by focus groups, police, or propaganda campaigns. Its done by thumping the hell out of the other guy. Don't listen to the Lefty-Libs, if we had really decided to after 9/11 we could have ended this war in 18 months.

258 posted on 07/15/2005 10:25:02 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: infowarrior

Good summary. You have illustrated the cause of the Revolutionary War against the British. The movie "The Patriot" comes to mind. It is too bad they do not realise the magnitude of the juggernaught they are starting. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but in 50 years America will look very different.


259 posted on 07/15/2005 1:34:58 PM PDT by pankot
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To: pankot; infowarrior

Remember Bacon's Rebellion. The crown had agreements with the Indians, but they were killing settlers; the crown and the colonial authorities were weak and indecisive. Frustrated with years of indifference to their plight, Bacon led a revolt and cleaned house in Virginia. This was 100 years before our Revolutionary War.


260 posted on 07/15/2005 1:43:12 PM PDT by John Filson
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