Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
Dont ask me, because you know I wont tell you how I came across this information.
Here is the scoop.
This is all about the Supreme Court.
With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Coopers background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.
The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.
Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of Obstruction of Justice and Lying to the American People in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.
Forget about Judith Miller.
Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of Obstruction of Justice Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.
What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.
The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little inside baseball but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.
Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who stole the first election and won the second election by the smallest margin of any incumbent President who is embroiled in a National Security Scandal to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.
Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Roves help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.
So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Dont expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.
So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so dont ask me.
-PD
I missed it ...who do ya think?
What would that have to do with anything? And besides, the consensus here seems to be that Miller knew Plame was CIA because she and her husband socialized with Wilson and Plame. That still doesn't answer the question -- why does Miller need to fear testifying that she told the White House that Plame worked for the CIA?
What, exactly and in detail, did Rove say about Plame? ( I know what he said, but I doubt that you do! )
How, exactly and in detail, is saying that Wilson's wife submitted Wilson's name, is that "outing" her?
What is "COWBOY LAW"? DYING WITH YOUR BOOTS ON ?
Keep up, biy, try to keep up! You said that Rove was "covering the president, whom you've called MOT VERY BRIGHT. Sooooooooooo, since the entire briar patch mess, that the moronic Dems and Wilson have set up, is ATHE of his wife as a "COVERT CIA AGENT", which she was and still isn't, when Rove tried to stir Mr. Mandy Grunewald off the stupid story, which Mr. Mandy threw into a call that was supposed to be about something completely DIFFERENT, why are YOU now asking me if the president outed someone?
Repeating specious DEM talking points has just proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you are the one who isn't bright at all. And claiming that you're married to a nurse, who has to get up early, is a coward's way of getting out of the cesspool, you've dug and placed yourself into. I've seen you here, typing away, late into the night.
You haven't a single question I put to you, with any facts at all!
You have also LIED about the "leak"!
You either ONLY know what the Dems say about this, or you are the one with the room temperature IQ , when the room is in an igloo.
And the class warfare garbage is that of a damned Dem! You are NO Conservative.
no ....I havent followed all the threads ....yet
Lack of Employment.
If she is responsible for getting Rove off the hook, what liberal rag do you think is going to give her work? She was already on thin ice with the NY Times because of early WMD reports that were backing up Bush.
There were lots of liberals wanting her fired back during the early days of the Iraq war.
Maybe you mean Miller herself ...which is my guess
I don't see how the Senate Republicans can stand these constant liberal brain-farts. It must stink in there.
Bingo, Wham, Buzz!!!! Just my opinion but this war really seems to have put the kibosh on some very lucrative side jobs. I mean come on, whats common to both organizations, international connections, can't really get fired or lose your job from either, dealing with people who have money, power and are corrupt in nature. Upsetting the apple cart is not high on these organiztions list of things to do...IMHO.
I thought you were goin to bed, Iconoclast...?
How would her testifying that she told the White House that Plame was in the CIA get Rove off the hook?
How do you know Rove told Matt Cooper that Plame worked for the CIA? Go back and read the email - which, by the way, does NOT constitute direct quotes from Rove and is only Cooper's hurried recollection of a hurried conversation. Cooper's email says "it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip." Does this mean that Rove told him Wilson's wife worked for the CIA? Or is this Cooper's commentary passed along to his editor, based on information he already knew?
Now answer me this: Why was this email leaked from Time magazine to its biggest and most bitter rival, Newsweek?
Judith Miller is in jail because she does not want to reveal that Valerie Plame was her source for dozens of stories in the last few years, and that she arranged for Joe Wilson's op-ed to be published in the New York Times.
Well, I would have to say Iconoclast is no conservative, my impression from his posts, to me he sounds a bit like an extreme libertarian.
It is NOT "moot" ! There is NO law against saying that a non-covert agent, who is NOT LIVING OVERSEAS, works for the CIA!
Miller is hiding something else!
OK, this is the first explanation that makes any sense whatsoever. Thanks. But I still think this Clintonesque parsing of words regarding not using her name, and now this new one, whether the agency was the CIA, is just plain silly.
His name is George Tenet.
President Bush has kept his word.
He repeats DEM talking points and now you say he's an extreme Libertarian? Boy, he must have been drinking a whole LOT of bong water; maybe doing far worse. LOL
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