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20 Nuclear Suitcase Bombs inside the USA
Michael Savage July 13th Radio Program ^ | July 14, 2005 | Sweetjustusnow

Posted on 07/14/2005 12:24:33 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow

Paul M. Williams author of The Al-Queda Connection which is due to be released soon, provides a compilation of data based on; FBI, CIA, Vice President Cheney, Homeland Security, Attorney General Ashcroft and news sources. Makes a strong case that there are 20 suitcase nukes in the USA which have been smuggled in through the border with Mexico.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boom; fear; greed; jihadinamerica; luggage; nookulur; nuclear; nuke; nukesinusa; osamasrevenge; paullwilliams; paulmwilliams; suitcase; suitcasenukes
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To: TBall
"Maybe they want to get nukes in place in other Western countries."

Then why would they bother to smuggle these nukes into the US?

161 posted on 07/14/2005 1:28:53 PM PDT by telebob
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To: lugsoul

Don't you remember the 200,000 Chinese on the border of Iraq waiting to attack our troops if we invaded Bagdad?


162 posted on 07/14/2005 1:29:41 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Kenton

Fair enough.

Sorry for the snarkiness. Mostly.

Bit weary of the knee jerk assumptions spouted as Absolute Fact. Especially the one that seems most illogical to me--that the minute the Jihadi's get a nuke, they'd lite it off because so many FREEPERS ASSUME they would.

Sigh.


163 posted on 07/14/2005 1:29:48 PM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: Alter Kaker

The argument that "if Al Qaeda had a nuke in the US, they would have used it long ago" is dangerously ignorant.

It is a self-defeating argument.

Look at the premise of the argument: IT IS A FACT that Al Qaeda wants to get a nuke into the US and use it.

We know that Al Qaeda is trying to acomplish this at its highest levels.

Based on what we all know about the availability of this material, regardless of how difficult it is to obtain and smuggle, it is also completely logical to assume it is only a matter of time until Al Qaeda deploys a nuke inside the US.

The probability is high that Al Qaeda has already moved the necessary components into the US.

It is completely possible that they are waiting for the best time and choosing the best place to deploy this weapon.

To assume they do not have one simply because they have not detonated one yet is pure folly and ignorance.

We know that Al Qaeda intends to nuke us and we know that it can be done. The only thing we don't know is how far along they are.

So what you are saying is "Don't worry. They can not be close to completing their goal . . . because they have not yet completed their goal."

What nonsense. And anyone who finds comfort in this nonsense is a bigger fool than you.


164 posted on 07/14/2005 1:29:56 PM PDT by TSchmereL (This war is not nearly over yet.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

165 posted on 07/14/2005 1:30:04 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Like I said, I'm not nuclear physicist (rather, a Political Scientist). Those arguments have been amongst the better on FR regarding the nuclear weapons, and I certainly cannot say anything that would discount such facts. Personally, I would not put it past them, but I understand the logistics of such are quite difficult.
166 posted on 07/14/2005 1:30:29 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: UglyinLA
why did they wait until 9/11 to fly jetliners into buildings if they knew how to fly them years earlier.

That's when all the pieces fell into place. Once the plan was ready and the hijackers were ready to go, they didn't wait very long, IIRC.

167 posted on 07/14/2005 1:30:34 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Phantom Lord
I find that number very realistic.

Who are you and why should it matter to me what you do or do not find realistic?

168 posted on 07/14/2005 1:31:08 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
If al Qaeda had suitcase nukes, Los Angeles and/or New York City would have been ashed a long time ago.

As for the notion of 5,000 sleeper cells, that number probably corresponds closely with the number of mosques in our nation.

169 posted on 07/14/2005 1:31:32 PM PDT by Prime Choice (I have to keep my expectations low. I can't fake looking impressed.)
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To: Alter Kaker
You have posted nothing to convince me that 5,000 is a totally impossible number. I am not saying that they do have that many. I am saying it seems to be a realistic number to me.

In a country of 300,000,000 5,000+ people spread out around the country will go virtually unnoticed.

170 posted on 07/14/2005 1:31:38 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord

"Here's a thought. Maybe they do have several suitcase nukes right now, within America. But because of the scarcity of those with skills to do the maintanence the strategically planned day is well down the road until the maintanence can be done."

Wait too long, and the maintenance becomes a non-issue--you'd be better off replacing the nuke itself.


171 posted on 07/14/2005 1:31:56 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

It would have been well within the province of Soviet weapons engineers to design a purpose-oriented device with the main criteria of low maintenance, low detectability, transportability and modest yield (the final criterion follows from the others). Such a device would not necessarily be known in its specifics to western intelligence, even now. Believe me, people paid to worry about such possibilities are plenty worried.


172 posted on 07/14/2005 1:32:16 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"--and helium captures neutrons very efficiently"

Sorry, but no. Helium neutron capture cross-section is very low. That's one of the reasons they use it as primary coolant in carbon-moderated HTGR's (High-Temperature-Gas-Reactors).

173 posted on 07/14/2005 1:34:01 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: BearWash

"It would have been well within the province of Soviet weapons engineers to design a purpose-oriented device with the main criteria of low maintenance, low detectability, transportability and modest yield (the final criterion follows from the others)."

We spent fifty years trying to make "low-maintenance" nukes.

It never happened. The critical components raidiate, oxidate, and deteriorate.


174 posted on 07/14/2005 1:34:36 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: wideawake

Thirty years of decay + Soviet manufacture = at most, dirty bombs.


175 posted on 07/14/2005 1:34:50 PM PDT by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: Modernman

Modernman wrote: "That's when all the pieces fell into place. Once the plan was ready and the hijackers were ready to go, they didn't wait very long, IIRC."

I totally agree. For whatever reason, they're waiting. And for all of us, its like waiting for a flu shot in the ass. You know its coming and its gonna hurt.


176 posted on 07/14/2005 1:34:54 PM PDT by UglyinLA (WideGlide... Thats too funny.)
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To: Alter Kaker
If Al Qaeda had even one suitcase nuke, they'd have used it long ago

The Islamists had the means, motive and opportunity to perpetrate the attacks on New York and Washington long before September 11, 2001.

I'm not sure about these suitcase nuke stories either, but just because they haven't attacked doesn't mean they can't attack. The monsters have patience that most Americans can't even comprehend.

177 posted on 07/14/2005 1:34:57 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (I (heart) Karl Rove)
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To: TSchmereL
Based on what we all know about the availability of this material, regardless of how difficult it is to obtain and smuggle, it is also completely logical to assume it is only a matter of time until Al Qaeda deploys a nuke inside the US.

Huh? No it isn't. At present Al Qaeda has one possible source: Pakistan. Either the US helps Pakistan secure its weapons stockpile or it doesn't. But if it does, there isn't any way for Al Qaeda to get a nuclear weapon.

The probability is high that Al Qaeda has already moved the necessary components into the US.

Is it? Based on what, the TSchmereL Center for Intelligence? I think the probability is exceptionally low.

It is completely possible that they are waiting for the best time and choosing the best place to deploy this weapon.

Why? Al Qaeda has always attacked when it can. I think its more possible than Al Qaeda doesn't have any nukes.

178 posted on 07/14/2005 1:35:18 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I thought we had a bunch of fizzles in the 1950s from helium contamination.


179 posted on 07/14/2005 1:35:31 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Alter Kaker
Who are you and why should it matter to me what you do or do not find realistic?

Who are you and why should I listen to your claims that 5,000 AQ sleepers in America is a wholly bogus and unbelievable number?

180 posted on 07/14/2005 1:35:32 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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