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Divers recover cannon from CSS Alabama in English Channel
Columbus Ledger-Enquirer ^ | Tue, Jul. 12, 2005

Posted on 07/14/2005 10:35:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: AnAmericanMother; PAR35; burlywood
PAR35 -- sorry about dropping the 'h.' My bad.

burlywood -- only part of the Alabama's crew was British. The English were supposed to be neutral during the Civil War. But you are correct, Brits fought bravely with their Confederate mates on board the CSS Alabama.

AnAmericanMother -- found this the site below which is dedicated to your brave Bulloch relatives:

When Liverpool was Dixie

List of the Alabama's Victims. Which is why Bulloch's ship is regarded as "greatest commerce raider of all time."

Britain had been claiming neutrality throughout the war. Later a crewman turned against the CSA and signed a formal affidavit giving rise to the now famous diplomatic dispute. The British were forced to pay $ 15.5 million in damages to the U.S.

41 posted on 07/14/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

CSS Alabama ping


42 posted on 07/14/2005 2:37:11 PM PDT by kalee
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To: archy
Now THAT is doggone obscure!

I like it!

Afrikaans looks like a cross between Plattdeutsch and Dutch . . . I can actually read it, much to my amazement. (I do read High German and Plattdeutsch)

43 posted on 07/14/2005 3:34:15 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ex-Texan
Neat stuff! My collateral relations were clearly very busy during the war.

My lineal ancestors, on the other hand, were hauling around artillery and riding horses on dry land.

44 posted on 07/14/2005 3:36:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: PAR35
Captain Charles W. Pickering

Didn't President Bush nominate him to an Appeals Court? :)

45 posted on 07/14/2005 4:28:46 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stainlessbanner
Over here.

Dixie Ping?

46 posted on 07/14/2005 4:31:20 PM PDT by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: bourbon; LibertarianInExile; Nasty McPhilthy; injin; McCainMutiny; MacDorcha; JohnPigg; smug; ...

dixieping


47 posted on 07/14/2005 7:50:21 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: nickcarraway
There's an interesting side bar to this story.

After the Alabama sank the USS Hatteras off the coast of Texas on Jan 11, 1863, some California miners from Southern states named the area of their claims, in the shadow of Mt. Whitney, the Alabama Hills.

When news reached the area that the Kearsarge had sunk the Alabama another group of miners with opposing sympathies promptly registered the area of their claims as the Kearsarge Mining District.

The mining camp and growing town became Kearsarge City. A nearby pass through the high Sierras became Kearsarge Pass.

The taunting did not stop there. Soon a prominent peak in the area was named Kearsarge Peak and a ridge of rocky crags became Kearsarge Pinnacles, rising majestically over Kearsarge Lakes.

Of course the Navy maintained the tradition of ships named Kearsarge. The current, and fourth namesake, is an amphibious assault ship. The USS Kearsarge puts the Marines' unique brand of chaos wherever freedom is at risk.

The Alabama Hills, in the Owens Valley near Lone Pine, CA.

Kearsarge Pinnacles overlooking Kearsarge Lakes. Hiking access via 11,760 foot Kearsarge Pass by way of Onion Valley road, terminating at a 9,200 foot campground.

The USS Kearsarge, delivering United States Marines worldwide.

48 posted on 07/14/2005 7:51:59 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: archy; Constitution Day

Great pix. Salute!


49 posted on 07/14/2005 7:53:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Tanniker Smith

It is a very good series, as is the Turtledove series "the Great War." And if you haven't read his "Guns of the South," you better.


50 posted on 07/14/2005 7:55:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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To: archy

Howzabout something in English?

"ROLL ALABAMA ROLL!"

When the Alabama Keel was laid

Roll Alabama Roll

It was laid in the yard of Jonathan Laird

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

It was laid in the yard of Jonathan Laird

Roll Alabama Roll

It was laid in the town of Birkenhead

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

Down the Mersey Way she rolled then

Roll Alabama Roll

Liverpool fitted her with Guns and Men

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

From the Western Isles she sailed forth

Roll Alabama Roll

To destroy the commerce of the North

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

To Cherbourg Port she sailed one day

Roll Alabama Roll

To take her count of prize money

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

Many a Sailor lad foresaw his doom

Roll Alabama Roll

When the Kersage move in view

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

A Ball from the forward pivot that day

Roll Alabama Roll

Shot the Alabama's Stern away

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

Up the three mile limit in 64

Roll Alabama Roll

The Alabama Sank to the Ocean floor

Oh! Roll Alabama Roll

When the Alabama's Keel was laid

Roll Alabama Roll

It was laid in the yard of Jonathan Laird

Roll Roll Alabama Roll


51 posted on 07/14/2005 7:58:27 PM PDT by 75thOVI (Any ship can be a submarine...............once!)
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To: concentric circles

Interesting historical sidebar. Thanks for posting.


52 posted on 07/14/2005 8:02:53 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: stainlessbanner; nickcarraway
Thanks for the ping . . . a good read with insightful follow up.


53 posted on 07/14/2005 8:20:09 PM PDT by w_over_w (A good fence is horse high, pig tight and bull strong.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; archy

I think Arthur C. Clarke once quipped (something to the effect of) "Dutch Afrikaans is the only known language which bruises listeners when spoken."

I always thought that was funny.


54 posted on 07/14/2005 8:30:56 PM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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To: concentric circles

Great story! I drove through the Owens Valley 2 years ago, but I missed out on the great backstory to the place names. I 'm certain I drove right past the Alabama Hills!


55 posted on 07/14/2005 8:34:11 PM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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To: concentric circles
Enjoyable sidebar . . . I'm getting out the Atlas as I write to look up those landmarks.

BTW, a very inspirational profile page . . . thank you sir.

56 posted on 07/14/2005 8:43:28 PM PDT by w_over_w (A good fence is horse high, pig tight and bull strong.)
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To: nickcarraway
The 7,000-pound main battery pivot gun of the Confederate sea raider CSS Alabama has been recovered from the bottom of the English Channel, where the vessel was sunk 141 years ago by a Union warship, a project spokesman said.

One of my favorite chapters in the Civil War: taking out the guns before they can be aimed at you.

57 posted on 07/14/2005 8:48:51 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: nickcarraway

The cannon was brought to the surface by the French naval vessel Elan

Which promptly surrendered.


58 posted on 07/15/2005 7:35:07 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: 75thOVI
Howzabout something in English?

"ROLL ALABAMA ROLL!"

When the Alabama Keel was laid ... .

That's a pretty little tune, [mp3 link]somewhere between a seaman's chanty and a dirge- which seems appropriate.

But in English? Well, sort of....

59 posted on 07/15/2005 9:41:48 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: bourbon
I think Arthur C. Clarke once quipped (something to the effect of) "Dutch Afrikaans is the only known language which bruises listeners when spoken."

Hoe sê jy dit in Afrikaans? Obviously, A.C.C. never had a Finnish girlfriend.

60 posted on 07/15/2005 9:46:18 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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