Posted on 07/13/2005 11:29:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Not only is your ignorant comment an attack on the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, it is a slap in the face to all Catholics, Christians and Jews. Your personal bigotry is out of place in a forum such as FreeRepublic.
Get a hold of yourself. Despite your attempt to silence me for an opinion you disagree with, I'm still here. Deal.
> Just not great literature as some believe. <
I don't know anyone who considers them "great literature," but they are great reads.
"The Pope's family was publicly anti-Nazi. His father had to give up his job and his family had to relocate because of their opposition to the Nazis. He was a Hitler Youth only in the sense that all German boys were forced to be Hitler Youth. To suggest that he is some kind of secret fascist is a gross insult. It is an insult to honest Germans who did not follow Hitler. It is an insult to Catholics. It is an insult to the truth."
That is an inconvenient fact up here in Minnesota, where DU, MoveOn.org, and brethren carry more weight than the Bible for the barking moonbats here. The moonbats here don't care about the facts, just shout down with "Ratzi's a Nazi/Ratzi's a Nazi/Ratzi's a Nazi/He hates queers".
Sorry for the rant, but I have recently had a violent encounter where I have just concluded that like Sad Freaksicko, Minnesota is no longer part of the United States - well, at least the Twin Cities part.
Can we stop with the hysterics? Contrary to popular belief on FR, there will be no book burnings in St. Peter's Square.
PhiKap - I have a question for you. What if the Harry Potter series subtly promoted the tenets of Islam?
What's with Catholics and books -- should clean up their own house and quit worrying about what book someone is going to read.
I guess the Catholic Church should stop commenting on abortion, too, since we "should clean up our own house" and quit worrying about individuals using their free will, right?
Defense? How about he was a member of the Hitler Youth, served in an anti-aircraft unit and left the army when it was obvious they were going to lose. The facts are my defense. Now, for your insulting and belittling anyone with an opinion remotely different from your own, what's yours?
It's simply incredible to me. The same people who vilify Robert Byrd, and rightfully so, for being a Klansman 50 years ago, will go to any length to rationalize this man's actions.
Idiot. Membership in the Hitler Youth was compulsory. Robert Byrd's membership in the Klan was his own decision.
The above is a bold faced lie.
So he wasn't a member of the Hitler Youth or the military, then?
absolutely.
Don't engage this guy. He's here to sow opposition to the Church, and nothing more.
Hope it didn't take you too long to come up with that one.
Membership in the Hitler Youth was compulsory.
Doesn't the Church teach that we all have a choice, and a duty, to fight evil?
You are remembering incorrectly.
The teacher asks all of the children to try their brooms. They do so with varying success. Neville falls and Madame Hooch takes him to the infirmary.
Madame Hooche orders them not to get on their brooms. When she's gone, Malfoy finds Neville's "rememberall" (sp?) that Neville's grandmother has sent. Harry tells him to give it back. Malfoy takes off and throws the rememberall.
THEN Harry takes off to catch the rememberall.
So I never got to the witchcraft,I decided it was not a movie I would recommend for children based on the lack of consequences for bad behavior.
Then you weren't paying attention. There are consequences for EVERY action.
When Harry and his friends disobey, it is clear that they are fighting against a greater evil. Is that such a bad thing?
Thankfully, Paul Revere's parents didn't stop him or we'd all be speaking English today.
Now, if you've decided not to let your children read the books, fine. That's your choice. In fact it's your responsibility.
But the argument that actions don't have consequences in the Potter books just doesn't wash.
Oh a question completely unrelated to the statement "Ratzinger collaborated with the most despicable regime in the history of the human race." which is strange because there is a "So" preceding it. But nonetheless I'll answer the red hearing.
Just like everybody else around him he was automatically conscripted but chose to do nothing before getting out.
But getting back to your actual statement. ...sigh... Where is your proof that he was a Nazi collaborator. Now remember words have meanings. Just barking out again that he was in an area where people were automatically conscripted does nothing to prove your label of a collaborator.
Oh and one more thing, while completely disregarding that this wasn't part of your question but entirely a red hearing (all the fashion I've found) you refer to the Pope as "our Pope". What do you mean by that? Are you Catholic or just play one on TV and FR threads allowing you to bash the Pope?
The Church looks not only at the letter of the law but the context in which an action takes place. For example, suicide is not the slam-dunk mortal sin most people think it is. Certainly a "poor" choice, and one that throws away God's greatest gift. But wait, the Church also takes into account the psychological health of the person who commits the sin. Was this person suffering clinical depression? Was there extreme duress (like the jumper at the World Trade Center)? The Church won't confirm that any soul is in hell because the context of sin matters as much as the sin itself; so what makes you think you have the 'goods' on what the circumstances were surrounding Benedict's compulsory membership in the Hitler Youth and can pass judgment on his soul? Would you care to address the spiritual state of Benedict's soul at the time? Was he a strident Catholic? Was he practicing but not versed in theology? What gives you the right to judge him?
Took less than a second.
Well said.
Gotta disagree. The Bible holds the message of Christ. It is Christ that gives life, NOT the Bible.
Please tell me you did not just make some sort of relation to the Pope's dislike of a book with the fact that he was FORCED into the Hitler Youth as a child. Ugh! That's a nice line of DU-reasoning right there.
Coke... keyboard... where do I send you the bill? LOL!
Oh shut it bub. If you can't read the implications that statement was loaded with you need help. The implication is plain: The Pope was in the Hitler Youth, he's labelling a book "subversive" as well, ergo we better make sure he doesn't act the Nazi and call for the burning of these books.
Insipid implication to put forth, especially if you know anything about the Holy Father.
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