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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: Malichi

More plausible is that Natalee did not want to "consumate" their brief relationship. Urine, being 6'5" and jacked up on who knows what, gets way to rough with her. Initially she may have been buried on the island but eventually dumped far enough out to sea where she will never be found.


361 posted on 07/14/2005 5:21:33 PM PDT by doc
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; grizzfan; ...
From SM:

More from MB student Alana Jordan (Dash)regarding mysterious phone call.

It doesn't make sense that she would call this person when she had her friends' cell phone numbers and knew they had it on them. She couldn't have aclled from her phone, why would she know his number by heart?

362 posted on 07/14/2005 5:24:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Canadian Outrage; All

On Nancy Grace Karl Penhaul stated the the Dutch Marines in the F-16s reported that they are 99% sure that Natalee is not on the island.


363 posted on 07/14/2005 5:28:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I don't know if I believe the Dutch anything!!


364 posted on 07/14/2005 5:29:30 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat; Canadian Outrage; cajungirl
TK..I'm not clear about where the alledged cell phone call originated from and to where? Does that make sense? LOL

Listen guys, Nancy Grace could keep this thing alive. Greta has done a fine job...but Nancy is sinking her teeth into this, but good!

sw

365 posted on 07/14/2005 5:36:06 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Do you guys have Satellite Radio in Canada? That might help, so you can get CNN..FOX news live while you sit in traffic :)
366 posted on 07/14/2005 5:38:14 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: All
Dave Holloway says the two or three fisherman at the Hut say that they did NOT see Natalee or Joran near the beach that night..eyewitness. Another inconsistancy (LIE) in Jorans story.

Dave also says that Joran indicated to the HS group that he was a visitor from Holland and said he staying at the Holiday Inn.

Dave thinks that Natalee may have thought she was getting into a "taxi", since they look like regular cars, except for a tag up in the dash that says "taxi".

He thinks Shatish may have entered the car after Joran, Deepak and Natalee were already in.

Psychotherapist says the only thing that ties all the stories Joran is telling is a "CYA". Joran is covering his butt.

Kalpoe brothers told the authorities they had been on the beach between 12 and 5 am at the fishermans HUT area. This information can from the Kalpoe brothers Attorney. The Fisherman say they saw a jeep type vehicle pull up close to the beach, sometime around 3am

Sorry this is long, but I wanted to get this info in..

sw

367 posted on 07/14/2005 5:50:00 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: cajungirl

I haven't been near the computer for a few hours, but I did just hear on BoR an Aruban reporter give out some information. The said the morning Natalee disappeared they were able to trace when Joran got home by checking his cell phone and battery. He got home at 4 AM. Depek did go home, but left home again early in the morning.


368 posted on 07/14/2005 5:57:29 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: spectre
"TK..I'm not clear about where the alledged cell phone call originated from and to where? Does that make sense? LOL"

Okay there has been speculation (me included) regarding the phone call message that Charles Croes spoke about in his interview with Greta.

The speculation has been whether it was Natalee calling home or to some of her relatives in distress.

The last 2 posts that I posted from one of the MB students (Dash) is stating that it was not a phone message to Beth or anyone in the Holloway or Twitty family. Dash does not think it was Natalee and states that Natalee would not have used her cell phone and would not have known this person's (recepient of the phone message)phone # by heart. Dash states that it could have just been a wrong #, a flaw in the phone lines, etc..

I think what happened at first those that are involved first assumed that it was Natalee and has since then decided that it was not, jmo.

369 posted on 07/14/2005 6:06:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GarySpFc

Gary, that's my special carry favorite with my Jackass rig. Glock rocks and have Glock will travel. NSNR


370 posted on 07/14/2005 6:07:45 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Yep, but every man should carry a PPK as a backup. Mind you, I realize all too well it's a sissy weapon with little knockdown, but pack the mags with teflon glazers, and it's not bad for a backup.


371 posted on 07/14/2005 6:12:12 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Quilla

Quilla, I saw it advertised in my new American Rifleman magazine. I viewed the specs and concluded, it's a T Rex stopper. NSNR


372 posted on 07/14/2005 6:20:58 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: spectre

Who is Nancy Grace interviewing?

Jug told Hannity that they still think Natalee is alive.


373 posted on 07/14/2005 6:31:04 PM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem

Why would her family concede if there is no evidence she is dead?

Hope and pray.


374 posted on 07/14/2005 6:32:52 PM PDT by Voir Dire
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To: Canadian Outrage
No, but I think that at first Joran was trying to push it on her then got pissed and decided to spike her drink. You know the "I'll show this little you know what who's boss..."
mentality. No, I don't think she took it of her on accord. I am starting to think that maybe Natalee was the conscience of the group and went along to make sure everyone was ok. I assume that role sometimes and you would think that people would appreciate it but when one is in full party mode someone like that is viewed as a drag. The kids were probably like, "Wow, Nat sure is loosening up tonight" and didn't think anything was wrong.
TAW
375 posted on 07/14/2005 6:32:55 PM PDT by Malichi (.)
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To: spectre
From SM:

More regarding phone message by MB student Alana Jordan (Dash)

I heard it on a bus with a bunch of kids around me... so I heard probably considerably less than someone in a diff. environment listening to it. It sounded to me like there were people speaking a different language in the background and near the end it sounded like someone said "get off my phone" or "are you on my phone?" or something. But again, I'm not really the person to ask, as I didn't hear it clearly. The main reason I don't think it was Nat, though, is that I don't think she would have called this person... he even said he didn't think she would even know his number. (We have a phone directory at Mtn. Brook, but it lists home numbers of students... if she called people about graduation tickets she owuld have called their home numbers and likely from her home phone instead of wasting her cell minutes.)[/quote]

376 posted on 07/14/2005 6:43:59 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: doc

"" More plausible is that Natalee did not want to "consumate" their brief relationship. ""

I agree, Doc. Imo, if there was any sex between Natalee and Juran, it was rape and that perhaps is why he killed her. Also, I do not believe Natalee would have knowingly taken drugs. From all we've heard about Natalee, she was a very sensible person, with zero history of using drugs.


377 posted on 07/14/2005 6:56:02 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; grizzfan; ...

Benvida Desousa, Beth & Jug Twitty's lawyer stated on Hannity and Colmes that she believes that Joran will be brought to trial whether the prosecution produces more evidence or not, even without a body.


378 posted on 07/14/2005 6:57:38 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All

Greta is having technical difficulties at the present, will join the show asap.


379 posted on 07/14/2005 7:00:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Not sure if this was posted. It appeared in today's NY Post. I read it on my commute home. Background on JVS lifestyle

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm


380 posted on 07/14/2005 7:03:07 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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