| This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies. |
|
Locked on 07/19/2005 10:31:17 AM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:
New thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1446077/posts |
Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo
Hi to both of you..haven't been on FR today, and heaven't read the thread today, but I had a brief moment, and wanted to give you a heads up in case it hasn't been posted. In today's NY POST, there's a big exclusive article interviewing Natalee's friends, the ones who watched hgher get into the car that nght with the three guys..Fascinatingread ..it should be on their website...regards
The fact that the defibrillator remains in their little transportation business and is not IN the so-called "ambulances strikes me being consistent with what was posted first on the other message board. It is quite plain to me that miz elli doesn't know squat about emergency medicine, including the fact that in 2005, it is a stretch to consider even a defib to be "advanced".....its pretty basic in the real world now for at least 30 years.
re the hair/tape.....if it IS Natalees hair, it would seem to indicate that she was kept alive for at least SOME length of time and for some purpose......even in such a backward place as aruba I can't imagine anybody taping up/restraining a corpse. Absent roots on the hair shafts, mitochondrial dna is all we could hope for.....and I'm not sure what the peroxide that made her blonde does to the dna. (you can see her dark "roots" frowing out of her scalp in most pics of her except for the graduation yearbook photo))
Thanks. Wonder were he is right now and who is taking care of him. His Father, mother and stepparents are all in Aruba.
He must miss his parents.
Thanks ken5050.
I went to the Post but couldn't find the story...anyone got a link.
I've had a hectic weekend, so I'm just getting back into reading the thread.
Thanks for the heads up on NYPost. I have a feeling tomorrow might be an interesting day in Aruba.
sw
TexKat, it's the periodicity of the binge, not the lenght.
Now back to my work.
How does Natalie's continual media and FR coverage compare to the news of horrendous terrorist attacks in London and Iraq? it's past time to use some sense of proportion, but that's something the media has none of. Laura Ingraham just said the same thing, so it's just not me. I'm sorry about the girl, but she is dead and Aruban justice will not find her remains or prosecute her killers.
We can pay attention to more than one story at a time. We are not retarded.
Good answer Cajungirl LOL:)
Uh oh, TK...PVDS finally caught wind of you. You don't suppose that "Paulus Invictus" father of "Jurine Convictus."
I actually found the link for the article. When I tried to access it, I was told I had to register. ugh..
I'm awaiting my notification to finish the registration process. Clik on the story index and scroll down until you see the article. It starts out with Natalee's Friends, I think. I'm sure you'll recognize the title if you go to the Story Index link.
Yea, but it is girls who are skilled at multi-tasking and Paulus may not be able to pay attention to more than one thing at a time.
Posting from his spidey hole in aruba? At the prison wardens house?
I wonder if it is a woman's prison. Would make sense with those horny little "of the ditch" boys. Ever wonder about the etymology of those dutch names? Van der Sloot...van der Straat.
The biggest *waste of time* coverage, imo, is all the BS coming from Wilson and the Demos - who are trying their best, to create something out of thin air, against Karl Rove.
By HEATHER GILMORE and MARIANNE GARVEY
July 17, 2005 -- NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S best friends watched help lessly as she climbed into a car with three men she barely knew after a night of partying on the island paradise of Aruba.
And they never saw her again.
Haunted by that thought and praying daily for her best friend, Ruth McVay, 18, spoke to The Post of the thrilling but finally shocking vacation during which Holloway disappeared, never to be seen of heard from again.
McVay and Holloway shared a bed in the hotel where they and 122 of their high-school buddies and seven chaperones went on vacation after graduation. They stayed up at night talking about their futures and their dreams.
On their last night, McVay turned in early while Holloway stayed out dancing with the men who would soon become suspects in her disappearance.
She woke up and realized Holloway was missing.
Other friends told her the story of how her friend got in the car with the strangers.
"They said no, they tried to stop her," McVay said of the friends who watched as Holloway drove away with three guys the girls had met the day before.
It was so unlike Holloway — a straight-A student who graduated near the top of her class and a full-scholarship winner who dreamed of becoming a doctor — to go off with virtual strangers, McVay said.
Sure, the vivacious blonde had an infectious smile and outgoing personality.
"You're attracted to her. You want to be friends with her," said McVay.
But she had smarts and maturity. She knew better, McVay said.
"Natalee would never take off with people we didn't know," McVay said. "She was my most responsible friend ever."
Now all McVay and friends can wonder is why — on Holloway's last night in Aruba, on the trip of a lifetime, surrounded by friends who loved and admired her — why this smart, savvy youngster would go by herself with three near-strangers.
And why her friends could do nothing to protect her.
That moment on May 30 was the last Holloway's friends saw of her — and the start of a compelling drama that has haunted friends and family and stymied police.
"The million-dollar question is why she got in the car," McVay told The Post from her Mountain Brook, Ala., home. "It's the biggest mystery ever."
EACH day since then, McVay and Holloway's other high- school friends — refusing to believe the worst — have racked their brains for something, anything, they could have done to stop her that night.
There is only what came before: days filled with friends and sun and beach, and nights of music and casinos — and a charming stranger.
"We would stay up talking, we talked about college. She was going to the University of Alabama on a full scholarship," McVay told The Post. "She wanted to be a doctor, and we talked about that. She was going to visit me at my college."
On one of their nights out, Holloway met Joran van der Sloot, a tall, smooth-talking gambler son of a prominent local judge-in-waiting and the last person to see Holloway alive.
"Nat met him in the hotel casino called Excelsior," McVay said. "She talked to him for a matter of five minutes when we were playing blackjack."
McVay, who was interrogated by the FBI, said the group of girls with Holloway told van der Sloot they would be at Carlos 'N Charlie's the following night.
"I found it weird because he mentioned earlier that no one went out on Sunday nights, that it was a bad night," McVay recalled.
"And then he showed up at the place," she said.
Before those last hours at the hot spot — the last night of the teens' vacation on the Dutch Caribbean Island — Holloway went to a Boyz II Men and Lauryn Hill concert on Surfside Beach, McVay said. Then she headed for Carlos 'N Charlie's; van der Sloot showed up around midnight.
McVay said she left soon after.
"I was tired," she said.
But van der Sloot and Holloway were seen dancing and drinking until the bar closed about 1:30 a.m. May 30.
Then Holloway did something that shocked her friends: She jumped into a car with van der Sloot and Surinamese brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Deepak Kalpoe, 21.
It just didn't make sense, McVay said. "I know that Natalee is responsible enough to leave on her own," McVay said.
Later that morning, when McVay woke up, Holloway wasn't next to her like she'd been every other night during their stay at the Holiday Inn.
"We thought she slept in another room so as not to wake us up," she said. "We thought she was being polite." With Holloway's packed bags and passport untouched and departure time looming, McVay and the group began to panic.
"We started walking down the halls knocking on all the doors," she said. "We told the chaperone, 'There's a problem, she's not here.'
"As we were boarding, we called [Holloway's mother] Beth," she said. "We were freaking out on the plane ride, trying to figure out anything that could have happened."
As the teens' plane took off from the island whose slogan is "Where happiness lives," a frantic Beth Holloway Twitty in Alabama was booking a flight to a destination where a nightmare was unfolding.
"Her mom is going insane, but she's the strongest person I know," McVay said.
Stubbornly refusing to give up hope or the search for her daughter, Holloway Twitty has lived in the same hotel where her daughter stayed since the disappearance.
"While I have not seen my beautiful daughter in many days, I will continue to search for her until I find her," she said last week. "I want her back. I want the truth."
McVay refuses to cave in to despair.
"It's the worst thing in the world, but I have as much optimism as I did from Day One," she said. "We're like family. I can't wait until she comes home."
THE protracted search for the smiling blonde is now the largest in Aruba's history.
Investigators are focusing on the jailed 17-year-old van der Sloot, who maintains his innocence.
"[He has] the most arrogant . . . attitude of any 17-year-old I've ever seen," said Holloway Twitty, 42. "All of those boys know what happened to her. They all know what they did with her that night."
Still, the case against van der Sloot appears to have stalled.
Seven people have been arrested and detained since Holloway's disappearance; van der Sloot is the only one still in jail.
No one has been charged.
Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were first taken in for questioning the day after Holloway disappeared. The three boys told police they took Holloway to a beach at the northwestern tip of Aruba before dropping her off at her hotel at about 2 a.m.
No security cameras recorded the event, however.
On June 5, two former hotel security guards, Mickey John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28, were detained in her disappearance.
The pair was released six days later. But there was a break in the case.
On June 9, with all evidence pointing at them, police picked up van der Sloot and the two brothers on suspicion of murder and kidnapping. The lawyer for John said while he was in jail, one of the brothers allegedly told him a drunken Holloway was dropped off with van der Sloot 10 blocks away from her hotel.
On June 23, high-ranking justice official and van der Sloot's father, Paul van der Sloot, 52, was arrested for suspicion of conspiracy to murder — but he was released along with the Kalpoe brothers four days later.
"A little bit of the nightmare clouds are now disappearing," wife Anita van der Sloot told The Associated Press. "The truth will always come forward. From the beginning, I trusted everything would be fine."
She said her son told her he was on a beach with Holloway and left her there unharmed in the early hours of the day she vanished.
IN one of the most sensational of the theories, a source told the National Enquirer that van der Sloot confessed to his father that he dumped Holloway's body in shark-infested waters but didn't kill the bright blonde.
He allegedly said Holloway hit her head and drowned in a stupor — brought on by the drug ecstasy — on an Aruban beach. The source told the tabloid the couple went swimming together after meeting at the club and taking drugs together.
"Natalee fell, hit her head on a rock and drowned," the Enquirer quotes its source saying. "In a drug- and alcohol-induced panic, Joran felt he had no other choice but to dispose of Natalee's body in the sea."
Frustrated and desperate, Holloway Twitty said she has visited the prime suspect's home twice before he was thrown in jail.
She said she first went there June 1, soon after arriving on Aruba, and spoke with the boy and his father.
"I want my daughter," she told the boy. "I want her. I want her back." She said his response was condescending, arrogant and dismissive.
"He kept hitting his chest and saying, 'What do you want me to do?' "
Thanks for the tip. I hate those registration sites. I'll give bugmenot a try.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.