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JOE WILSON: ’The President should fire Rove’!
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7012 ^ | July 13, 2005

Posted on 07/13/2005 6:25:47 PM PDT by Howlin

The Ambassador Strikes Back, Answers to the Right Wing Spin Machine *** A BRAD BLOG EXCLUSIVE ***

Ambassador Joseph Wilson fired back today at the Rightwing Spin Machine, which, having been issued marching orders late yesterday in a set of talking points from the RNC, is once again hoping to distract from the potentially treasonous crimes that George W. Bush’s top political operative and Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove is being alleged to have committed.

In a phone discussion early this afternoon, Wilson told The BRAD BLOG in no uncertain terms that "the President should fire Rove."

He told us that he’d be appearing on NBC’s Today Show tomorrow morning and would be repeating that call.

As well, he told The BRAD BLOG that he planned to read a letter on air which he received from Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush shortly after an article of his was printed in the San Jose Weekly News, on October 13, 2002, in which Wilson related his concerns about the pitfalls of the approach to Iraq being taken at the time by both the U.N. and the U.S.

In reply to that article, Wilson said that the former President wrote that he had "read your article and I agree with a lot of it."

Additionally, Wilson explained, Bush 41’s own National Security Advisor, Brett Scowcroft had contacted him to ask whether he "could walk on over to the White House with the letter" at the time. Which apparently he did.

Wilson also had sent the article to Bush 41’s Secretary of State, James Baker.

"None of them responded saying you’re a Democratic partisan hack and your views suck," said Wilson.

The above points are notable, because armed with those RNC talking point, Rush Limbaugh, Fox "News" and Friends have today kicked into overdrive smearing and lying about Wilson, claiming that he was against the Iraq War from the get-go.

If fact, Wilson, who was in charge of the Embassy in Iraq during the first Gulf War under Bush 41 (he was the last American to speak personally with Saddam Hussein before the war begain, and was responsible for taking care of some 125 Americans who had sought refuge in the American Embassy there when they were not allowed by Saddam to leave the country just prior to the war), says that it was "a full eight months" after he was sent by the CIA to Niger to investigate claims that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium there, "before I had said anything publicly about what America should consider in regard to a war with Iraq."

"My real concern was always WMD," he told us, "not Regime Change."

That concern was expressed in the October 2002, San Jose Weekly News editorial which apparently George W. Bush’s own father and National Security Advisor tended to agree with. Wilson’s trip to Niger occurred a full eight months earlier, in February of that same year.

We asked him if he had heard Fox "News’" John Gibson make his deplorable and irresponsible statement yesterday which said that "Karl Rove should receive a medal," because Wilson’s wife, covert CIA asset Valerie Plame, "should have been outted."

"Where I come from," slurred Gibson, "we do not want secret spy masters pulling the puppet strings in the background.

Gibson’s "logic", such that he has any, seems to be based on the unsupported claims that Plame -- or Wilson’s "little wifey" as Gibson condescendingly referred to her -- was "pulling the puppet strings" of national policy from her covert position in the CIA by sending Wilson, to Niger. That was, in Gibson’s false claim, because Wilson, "was opposed to the War in Iraq, opposed to Bush policy, and pointedly and loudly said so."

No, he didn’t, Mr. Gibson. Never mind those pesky facts. It’s only Fox "News" you work for, so we realize such facts are hardly relevant to you receiving your paycheck there.

"That is something that should be out in the open," blathered Gibson, "And the person doing it should be identified and should own up to it. So Rove should get a medal, if he did do what he says he didn’t do."

In response, Wilson simply said, "Well, that’s a lie. But no surprise there."

In the meantime, despite such pesky facts, the wingnuts also continue to claim that Plame was, in fact, not even a covert asset at the time of her outting.

The BRAD BLOG has learned from several sources, as also confirmed in Time magazine that Plame was indeed a "NOC", a nonofficial covert agent, the most valuable and secretive of CIA assets.

In regard to whether she was covert or not at the time of her outting by Rove, Bob Novak or whoever his "two senior administration sources" were, Wilson said, "What I can say is, that the CIA looked at the evidence of what had happened and referred the case to the Justice Department. That means that the CIA may think that a crime has been committed."

On Rightwing Hackery hoping to cynically deflect from the seriousness of the potentially treasonous crime committed by claiming that "Wilson lied" about his wife’s involvement in sending him to Niger, Wilson says, "In actual fact, all I’ve done is repeat what the CIA itself has said since July 22nd, 2003 as reported initially in Newsday by Knut Royce and Tim Phelps."

That Newsday article says [emphasis added]:

A senior intelligence official confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked "alongside" the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger.

But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. "They [the officers who did ask Wilson to check the uranium story] were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising," he said. "There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason," he said. "I can’t figure out what it could be."

"The CIA said [my wife] was not the person to have authorized my trip. They’ve repeated that time and time again."

And the Bush Apologists, who suddenly don’t seem to care all that much about National Security after all, keep repeating the opposite. Time and time again.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; johngibson; leak; plame; rove; wilson; yellowcake
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To: hershey
On Hannity and Colmes tonight, Annie Coulter referred to him as 'Clown Wilson'.

.......at least a half-dozen times in the short 2-3 minutes she was on.

It was very funny!

141 posted on 07/13/2005 7:55:08 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hershey

Nobody talks about Valerie Plame being a CIA agent MORE than Joe Wilson himself. He blatters lies effortlessly.


142 posted on 07/13/2005 7:56:36 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: hole_n_one
The Liberal talking points are on their TelePrompTers.
143 posted on 07/13/2005 7:57:06 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Carolinamom; kcvl

Isn't that the truth; it's unseemly the way he slobbers all over her.


144 posted on 07/13/2005 7:57:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Archon of the East

Considering Wilson's eccentric and inane behavior since his trip to Niger, one would almost suspect that he ate the yellow cake and the yellow cake ate his brain.


145 posted on 07/13/2005 7:58:20 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Pests are eating leaves off the vine of liberty-let us spray. some feign innocence-let them pray!)
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To: Howlin
I believe I heard Rush call Wilson a "Plastic banana good time rock-n-roll lying sack of excrement" on his show today. I was laughing my A$$ off.
146 posted on 07/13/2005 7:58:26 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: hole_n_one

Am I the only person around here who did not know until a few years ago that Amy Carter was not an only child and that Jimmah was the father of 3 adult sons? Who knew?


147 posted on 07/13/2005 8:01:08 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: Lockbar

I heard that! I was actually in the car for the first time in a long time........and I laughed, too!


148 posted on 07/13/2005 8:03:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Howlin

A Bipartisan committee found Wilson to be a liar regarding Niger. Why should anyone believe anything he has to say?


149 posted on 07/13/2005 8:04:18 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: Carolinamom
I knew. I remember the Carter years in dreadful detail.

I think Amy got all the attention because she was a child in the White House (we hadn't had one since JFK)and she was marginally more photogenic than her brothers.

150 posted on 07/13/2005 8:05:57 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Karl Rove is Plame-proof.)
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To: hershey

Mission Implausible ... Ann Coulter
World Net Daily ^ | 13 July 2005 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 07/13/2005 4:45:39 PM PDT by Rummyfan

Karl Rove was right. The real story about Joseph C. Wilson IV was not that Bush lied about Saddam seeking uranium in Africa; the story was Clown Wilson and his paper-pusher wife, Valerie Plame. By foisting their fantasies of themselves on the country, these two have instigated a massive criminal investigation, the result of which is: The only person who has demonstrably lied and possibly broken the law is Joseph Wilson.

So the obvious solution is to fire Karl Rove.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1442344/posts


151 posted on 07/13/2005 8:05:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin

This guy has no sense of personal dignity.

He might as well use the occasion to again recount his kissy-face first dates with wifey.


153 posted on 07/13/2005 8:07:03 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: hole_n_one
The links are the meat of the thread. Those I treasure.

I'll stop bitchin' and keep bookmarking till my computer blows a fuse. :-)

154 posted on 07/13/2005 8:07:04 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Howlin

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/29/novak.cia/

"Wilson at one point suggested that senior Bush adviser Karl Rove could have been behind the leak, which the White House denied. He backed off that assertion somewhat Monday, accusing Rove of at least condoning it."

Even JOE WILSON admitted it wasn't Rove - in 2003!


155 posted on 07/13/2005 8:07:18 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Shermy

He really sucks, doens't he?


156 posted on 07/13/2005 8:08:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Howlin

Good evening, Howlin. How about we fired Joe Wilson from the United States. He sure doesn't seem to have much love for it anyway, near as I can tell.


157 posted on 07/13/2005 8:08:32 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: Gepay
A sleeper troll.

Go back to DUmmyland, DUmmy.

158 posted on 07/13/2005 8:09:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Howlin
Thought y'all might enjoy this little stroll down memory lane:

http://clinton6.nara.gov/1997/08/1997-08-07-joseph-wilson-appointed-to-the-national-security-council.html

"For Immediate Release August 7, 1997 STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY

National Security Advisor Samuel R. Berger announced today the appointment of Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council."

-Of course Clarke was an aide to Berger.

I know, I know... I'm beating a dead horse.

In summation, "UNG".

-Cap

159 posted on 07/13/2005 8:10:15 PM PDT by Capn TrVth
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To: Miss Marple
LOL! Bless her heart.
160 posted on 07/13/2005 8:10:53 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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