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Byron York: There's a lot we don't know yet about the CIA flap
The Hill ^ | 7/13/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by Jean S

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To: Steve_Seattle

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221 posted on 07/13/2005 11:04:58 PM PDT by Maigrey (Unfortunately even Miracle Max couldn't bring this [terrorist] guy back... any mousse)
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To: piasa

Piasa keep digging up the gems..


222 posted on 07/14/2005 3:39:28 AM PDT by Dog
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To: piasa; cyncooper

Cyn see post 217..


223 posted on 07/14/2005 3:40:05 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Fedora

Okay...Well Oil for food = oil or nukes with this caveat...

Not a direct corralation but becomes the end result. Wilson is sent at the behest of his wife to make sure the French company is obsolved of wrong doing....in the proccess the French get thier oil benefits and exchange them for yellow cake uranium.

Wilson actually is now not just a player but now a pawn ( useful idiot) because he probably believes that he is just there to cover any uranium discussion so he can get the administration. I believe Wilson can't see past his own nose...which would exlain his percieved vanity. Because he tells lie after lie and thinks nothing of it...but the press keeps hauling this guy out. ..oops off on a tangent..

So tell me how Kelly plays in all this.


224 posted on 07/14/2005 5:30:49 AM PDT by generationfixit
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Right after the orignal Plame flap started, I did a search on the name Valerie Plame and came up with this genealogy link with that personal information on it. I wonder if this is a legit post where she's looking for family history, or is there something more to this post. Maybe a code or signal connected with her job at CIA--Ukraine and all that. Anybody know where Plame was born/raised?


225 posted on 07/14/2005 5:57:47 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Cautor

My take: [ FWIW :-) ]

First the page was last updated May, 2000 which means she has put her Maiden and Married name on a PUBLIC forum. Genealogy is a huge internet activity, so it is seen by thousands.

Keep in mind, I rarely post my entire name and personal email address in genealogy boards, unless I know the person I am posting to our I have been a member of that forum forever.

I would say it was obvious Valerie was not interested in anonominity (?sp) in May of 2000. Either that or she is incredibly stupid to think no one can make the connection.

Yesterday Hannity was talking about his (Joe's) book as it relates tto his relationship with Valerie.

If I recall, about the third date they were in the middle of a heavy makeout session and she stopped with an "Oh, BTW, there is something you should know about me. I am a CIA agent." [paraphrased of course.

Whoa....I am no expert on policy and procedure, but I thought being it was imperative that operatives avoid being compromised, especially in a sexual trist.
He met her in Feb 1997 (also keep in mind he did not divorce his second (?) wife until 1998-just an aside as to his character.)

Seems like everyday ordinary white trash to me.


226 posted on 07/14/2005 8:15:09 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Eva
So, is it possible that they were looking for a leaker within the CIA?

That's what I think, and I further speculate that the leaker had leaked real information detrimental to national security--not just this irrelevant, non-criminal crap about the desk jockey Plame.

227 posted on 07/14/2005 9:01:28 AM PDT by Sal
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Thanks for your reply. I too am an amateur genealogy buff and you are exactly right about posting full names and other personal stuff including email addresses. It is quite uncommon. For one thing, there are those who sweep up such personal information and use it for marketing &c. I find this post very strange indeed.


228 posted on 07/14/2005 10:08:56 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: AmishDude
Cooper is, of course, married to Mandy Grunwald, Democratic activist, for anybody who cares.

It's really amazing how closely many of the prominent journalists are linked to prominent politicians. Might be interesting to make a list for reference. I'm sure someone somewhere has done it.

229 posted on 07/14/2005 12:53:02 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: piasa
Remember this apology from CHB on that TJ Wilkinson story?

Wow. I remember following that story that night as it mutated its way around the world AFTER having been discredited.

230 posted on 07/14/2005 12:59:04 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: JeanS

I have a feeling that this case is a Rope a Dope aka Rove a Dope. Surely, the special prosecutor will have all the answers and God help anyone that commits perjury.


231 posted on 07/14/2005 1:08:29 PM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: Howlin

Wow...only 300 missed points.


232 posted on 07/14/2005 1:12:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Fedora
His investigation, which was arranged by Plame and lasted a total of 8 days, concluded that Saddam could not have smuggled uranium out of Niger without the complicity of the French-controlled company, and therefore, Wilson argued, it was inconceivable.

There's also the issue of control of the mines. As I recall, there were several statements - from Niger - that there were mines that weren't controlled, and that there was concern about unofficial sales being not only possible, but entirely plausible.

233 posted on 07/14/2005 1:19:56 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: generationfixit

I think most of that's on the right track, but my take is that Wilson had something to gain beyond getting the administration. Among his possible motives, the one that seems most tangible to me is that his business partners and political allies had financial and geopolitical interests in parts of Africa and the Middle East also of interest to France, and these interests were at stake in the debate over Iraq.

On Kelly, when he died he was being investigated as a possible source for a story by British reporter Andrew Gilligan which related to the British investigation of the origin of the same forged documents underlying Wilson's story.


234 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:04 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: lepton

Thanks for mentioning that. I don't think I'd heard those statements, but that seems logical to me, and plausible in light of Niger uranium sales to Libya. It's at least a possibility Wilson should've taken seriously if he was serious about his investigation.


235 posted on 07/14/2005 2:18:13 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: JeanS

As a business owner, the 3 words I loathe the most: "I Don't Know".


236 posted on 07/14/2005 2:42:58 PM PDT by Pagey (Whether Hillary Clintons' attacks on America are a success or a failure depends upon YOU TOO!)
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To: Fedora

Okay now that all makes sense. It seems so obvious..there has to be a money trail though for this to come to fruition.

With all we know...the one question I have..is why is the WH just milling about on on this? I am starting to get the impression that there will be a huge suprise and the press will have a ton of egg on it's face.


237 posted on 07/14/2005 4:00:46 PM PDT by generationfixit
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To: Howlin

Perhaps he DIDN'T lie!

Perhaps his REAL source did give him a last minute waiver, the identity of whom we still don't know as it was only disclosed to the Grand Jury.

If this is the case, it's further proof that it wasn't Rove!

hmmmmmm.....


238 posted on 07/14/2005 4:11:03 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: lugsoul

According to Vanity Fair, they met at a cocktail party in Washington DC.


239 posted on 07/14/2005 4:24:45 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: generationfixit
I am starting to get the impression that there will be a huge suprise and the press will have a ton of egg on it's face.

That's my impression, too.

240 posted on 07/14/2005 5:25:42 PM PDT by Fedora
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