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Ivins: Cursing power deregulation, erring badly on Saddam's deadly toll
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 7/12/05 | Molly Ivins

Posted on 07/13/2005 2:13:58 PM PDT by BigEdLB

Crow eaten here: This is a horror. In a column (Opinion, June 29) I asserted that more Iraqis (civilians) had now been killed in this war than had been killed by Saddam Hussein over his 24-year rule. Wrong. Really, really wrong. The only problem is figuring out by how large a factor I was wrong. I had been keeping an eye on civilian deaths in Iraq for a couple of months, waiting for the most conservative estimates to creep over 20,000, which I had fixed in my mind as the number of Iraqi civilians Saddam had killed.

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There have been estimates as high as 1 million civilians killed by Saddam, though most agree on the 300,000 to 400,000 range, making my comparison to 20,000 civilian dead in this war pathetically wrong. I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein, whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades. My sincere apologies. It is unforgivable of me not to have checked. I am so sorry.

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KEYWORDS: eatingcrow; massmurder; mollyivins; saddahm; unhinged
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Ivins condemns Haliburton, and and the Veep as part of the so-called Energy Illuminati so she can condemn Saddahm and her lefty buddies will give her a pass...
1 posted on 07/13/2005 2:14:00 PM PDT by BigEdLB
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To: BigEdLB

Wow, a Leftist who admits a mistake! Now I can die happy, I've seen it all!


2 posted on 07/13/2005 2:15:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: BigEdLB

Wow, a Leftist who admits a mistake! Now I can die happy, I've seen it all!


3 posted on 07/13/2005 2:16:50 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: BigEdLB
ONE by ONE.....they are TUMBLING.....down....down...down...
4 posted on 07/13/2005 2:19:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: popdonnelly

"... but it all depends on the meaning of the word 'dead.'"


5 posted on 07/13/2005 2:20:26 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: linkinpunk

LOL!!!!!


6 posted on 07/13/2005 2:25:39 PM PDT by georgia peach
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To: BigEdLB

Methinks I smell a bit of sarcasm in the apology.


7 posted on 07/13/2005 2:34:53 PM PDT by Straight8 (I am unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: Straight8

Who knows? She actually published it. That is a first step. A baby step, but a step nonetheless...


8 posted on 07/13/2005 2:37:38 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: georgia peach
Molly sure is getting to love the taste of crow. Either that, or she must be going through a heck of a lot of A1 sauce.

July 12: CROW EATEN HERE: This is a horror. In a column written June 28, I asserted that more Iraqis (civilians) had now been killed in this war than had been killed by Saddam Hussein over his 24-year rule. WRONG. Really, really wrong. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071205E.shtml

July 8: (Crow Eaten Here: In a recent column, I said Cunningham was in charge of the House Defense Appropriations subcommittee, whereas actually he is only a member thereof . . . apologies. He is also on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.) http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050708/1072908.asp

January 15, 2004- Crow Eaten Here: In a column written on Nov. 28, 2003, I included some useful research on campaign contributions and obligingly attributed it to Public Citizen, which would have been fine, except the research had been done by Public Campaign instead, a different outfit altogether... http://www.funnytimes.com/notfunny/20040115MI.html

March 15, 2005- CROW EATEN HERE: Speaking of misinformation, I managed to mess up completely myself in a recent column by throwing Claude A. Allen into a list of judges being renominated by Bush for the federal courts. Allen is not on the list of renominations. I deeply regret the error. http://www.funnytimes.com/notfunny/20050315MI.html

Finally, here is Molly enjoying a triple helping of crow back in 2000: Crow eaten here: Meanwhile, I need to take some responsibility myself. In my column of Oct. 15, I managed to misattribute an excellent story on high-tech firms paying no corporate income tax: It was not the San Jose Mercury News but the San Francisco Chronicle that did the story. In my column of Aug. 17, a misplaced quotation mark made it appear as though Justice Jim Baker of the Texas Supreme Court had written something that he did not. The part of the quote correctly attributed to him is simply, "We all know what is going on here." The interpretation of that to mean that the justices are getting campaign contributions from big companies was commentary. And here's a doozy: On Oct. 24, I used a lovely line, "Bush sounds like English is his second language, and Gore sounds like he thinks it's yours." I thought the line was original to a friend who asked not to be quoted -- it turns out that he read the line somewhere but can't remember where. So now I owe someone for a good line, but I don't know who. http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=8892

Thank you, Dogpile.com

In all fairness, at least she admits her mistakes. On the other hand, she needs to find a new fact-checker.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 2:39:59 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: BigEdLB

True. I guess I've become jaded and extremely suspicious of apologetic libs. I should try to not be cynical in these rare occasions.


10 posted on 07/13/2005 2:44:46 PM PDT by Straight8 (I am unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: BigEdLB

Why would you ever put a post by Molly Ivins on FreeRepublic.

She has absolutely no credibility about anything. All she writes is hate.

I don't care if she does admit a mistake - I am sure somewhere in any article by her will be anti-Bush rhetoric.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 2:46:40 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Straight8

Get behind me in the line of cynics...

This one actually means something...


12 posted on 07/13/2005 2:59:46 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: BigEdLB

Just goes to show you how screwed up this thinking is. Saddam murdered many more but the point is those killed now are still by those of Saddam's terrorists, so all of those killed are still to be on Saddam's tally sheet. We do not use car bombs, or beheading, or or or!


13 posted on 07/13/2005 2:59:57 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: BigEdLB
Every column a lib "opinion writer" pens is an error apology of some kind. After all, they twist their positions so often, they can't help but contradict themselves.

Gonzales jumps immediately to mind. First he's not an acceptable Attorney General because he supports terrorism and prisoner abuse.
Now, because they think he might have liberal tendencies on guns and abortion, they think he'd make an acceptable Supreme Court judge.

What a bunch of idiots.

14 posted on 07/13/2005 3:00:41 PM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: ClancyJ

Why not?

Crow eating by lefties has to be seen far and wide...

And as someone else said, she has been using a lot of A-1 sauce lately...

Do you watch what crows eat? That taste has to come through in the meat... On Saddahm particularly...


15 posted on 07/13/2005 3:01:44 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: BigEdLB
It is unforgivable of me not to have checked. I am so sorry.

SHE LIED!!!!!

She should be impeached!!

What? She can't be?

OK, well, fired then, at least!

16 posted on 07/13/2005 3:19:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Rommel, you magnificent son of bitch.....I READ YOUR BOOK!! - Gen. Patton)
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To: BigEdLB

Where does the fat old bag get 20,000 civilian deaths from?


17 posted on 07/13/2005 3:22:10 PM PDT by Normal4me
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...20,000 civilian dead in this war pathetically wrong. I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein, whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades. My sincere apologies. It is unforgivable of me not to have checked.

Anyone who didn't know something as elementary as this should not have been writing on Iraq to begin with, at least not getting published in a major media outlet.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 3:29:30 PM PDT by nosofar
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Where does the fat old bag get 20,000 civilian deaths from?

National Enquirer?
A seance with the "dearly departed" Qusay Hussein?
Hans Blix?
Mohamad el-Baradei? (UN Nuke Arms "Guru")
Iranian President-Ayatollah Whats-his-namy, embassy hostage taker?

Who knows?

Aha! - I know! - Thin Air
19 posted on 07/13/2005 3:46:16 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: BigEdLB

Molly Lies, People Die!


20 posted on 07/13/2005 3:48:09 PM PDT by MoJo2001 (Support Our Troops-->It's The Least Any Of Us Can Do...www.proudpatriots.org)
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