[Lindykim]

Note that American taxpayers are to fund the 'education' of 60,000 Mexicans. This is code for poisoning their minds with the same necrotic virus (communism) that infects American "intellectuals."

[Lindykim]

"Tea party" anyone?

[muawiyah]

With or without Mexicans in the system Social Security is going to go bankrupt anyway.

[satchmodog9]

"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

This will be different from the current system, how?

[ElCapusto]

The CFR, as many know, is a gaggle of American traitors whose one desire is to shove the USA into an impoverished position in order to make it easier to fold it into an association with our rag-tag and utterly hateful neighboring countries.

They perform their treachery by various means, e.g.: trade treaties that do not benefit the USA, giving away strategic real estate so it ends up in the hands of our communist enemies (Panama Canal), and making certain that our elected officials, bureaucrats, CEOs of important companies, high court justices are all on board for their agenda to destroy this nation in order that it rise up as a grotesque copy of the ECU!

[F16Fighter]

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005...

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

Sovereignty? We don't need no stinkin' sovereignty or Constitution when we have a (ssshhh, don't tell anyone -- it's a secret) New World Order to abide in.

[logician2u]

No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

There once was a time when I gave Phyllis Schlafly my full respect -- and money -- for the excellent work she did on the issues of national defense, education and women's rights.

But she seems to have turned into a union shill recently. Next thing you know, she's going to start a boycott of Wal-Mart for not paying their employees a "living wage."

[Designer]

"Here's another handout included in the plan."

This phrase could be repeated dozens, perhaps hundreds of times.

It would be difficult to list all of the ways U.S. taxpayers will be funding their own economic and social decline, but suffice it to say, that among other things, we help fund the International Monetary Fund, which is a major player in building infrastructure in Central and South America to make their countries more competitive with the U.S.

Building transportation infrastructure such as roads, railroads, and seaports will improve their ability to ship raw materials and finished product. Our own tax money (through the IMF) will help guarantee loans to their countries to build factories and assembly plants.

But apparently we don't care about any of that, based on the fact that we don't do anything about it.

[Delphinium]

This is something I have been suspecting for sometime. Actually it has been pretty hard to ignore, even when Idaho's Senator Larry Craig has joined this mentality.

How can we ignore this, and pretend these Republican leaders are so great?

[OldSgt.]

Old News, But then no one has been listening for along time now. Do ya really thick anyone will listen now.

If MSM doesn't tell them, then it's not happening.

[Final Authority]

The only thing this does is lower the standard of living of the American working class and raise the wealth of the investment class, the "elites", the One World Order people, those whom would like to confiscate our guns, now for good reason.

[Dat Mon]

People can laugh all they want at the 'tin foil' Birch crowd ...but the fact remains that the concept of global, open borders (i.e..the so called 'borderless society') has been out there and discussed by some of the economic and cultural elites for some time.

The late Robert Bartley of the WSJ was an early proponent of the borderless society concept. The WSJ remains one of the most outspoken proponents of liberalized immigration, amnesty, and guest worker bills.

These concepts are sometimes advocated from an economic perspective...sometimes from a 'compassionate' perspective...but the fact remains that there is an underlying agenda. I have a vague theory as to why some people might favor this type of system over our traditional capitalistic / constitutional system (from an economic perspective)...but I don't want to get into that here.

I think that what we are seeing is a 'coming out party' of this crowd...who have been a relatively silent but active player in both the democrat and the republican party hierarchies.

IMHO, this 'coming out' is going to result in lots of friction...and fracturing of traditional political alliances. No longer will the simple terms Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative be appropriate..its going to be more along the lines of 'traditionalists' vs 'modernist'.

It seems clear that many people see the European Union as a prototype of how a global economic union of open borderless societies would function.

The problem IMO is that it doesn't allow the traditional Constitution based government that was established by the founding fathers to survive in its present form.

Hell...that was just a bunch of old white guys 200 years ago ...time to move on to bigger and better things.

The pejorative term 'racist' is passe...get ready for the new terms...nativist...xenophobe..America firster.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

CFR: Building a North American Community: Report of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

Here is the link to the actual 59-page document in .pdf form:

Building a North American Community - Report of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America

[hedgetrimmer]

Robert Pastor is a fellow for the CFR, I think.

A North American Community
A Modest Proposal To the Trilateral Commission
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
November 1-2, 2002
DR. ROBERT A. PASTOR

The North American Commission should develop an integrated continental plan for transportation and infrastructure. Each country should harmonize its own standards on weight, safety, and configuration of trucking and then negotiate a single set of North American standards (with some variations based on weather and terrain). Second, the governments should eliminate “cabotage” restrictions and the “drayage” system, which are notorious feather-bedding schemes. Third, the governments should plan and finance new highway corridors on the Pacific Coast and into Mexico. Fourth, the regulatory agencies should negotiate a plan that would permit mergers of the railroads and development of high-speed rail corridors.

Well the rail consolidation is happening and the trans-texas corridor is happening.

"Smart border" strategies will be helpful, but more could be done. The duplication of documents that comes with crossing the border could be simplified and reduced by half by establishing a single “North American Customs and Immigration Service.” This agency would be composed of officials from the three governments, trained together in a North American professional school. The service should be used on the borders and on the periphery. An additional step that would do much to foster integration and eliminate impediments at the border would be to negotiate a Customs Union and a Common External Tariff. That would eliminate the elaborate and complex rules of origin. Finally, our three governments could learn from the European Union's efforts to establish 10-15 EU Centers in the United States. These Centers stimulate research and awareness in the United States of the EU. Our three governments should sponsor Centers for North American Studies in each of our countries to help the people of all three understand the problems and the potential of North America and begin to think of themselves as North Americans.

This truly is sedition.


Dr. Pastor has been a foreign policy advisor to each of the Democratic Presidential Candidates since 1976 and was Co-Chair of the Advisory Committee on the Americas for the Gore-Lieberman campaign. President Bill Clinton nominated him to be Ambassador to Panama, and he served as the Senior Advisor to the Carter-Nunn-Powell Mission to restore constitutional government in Haiti in 1994.

[hedgetrimmer]

Here is what Concordia University thinks are the road blocks to total integration:

Challenges to regional integration in North America:

--greater inequality in size and power of countries (which implies the US must lose power to Mexico and Canada to equalize)

--greater income inequality (which implies that the US must lose wages in order to equalize)

--no major war; external threat underlying NAFTA (except maybe the "war on terror" and the "need" for continental security)

--US tradition of unilateralism (which means massive social engineering must take place to replace the idea of individual rights with "community rights". Happening in schools, universities and smart growth housing developments all over the nation)

[Velveeta]

Ping

[Archon of the East]

This would all be very different if we could go to Canada and Mexico and buy land and start a business without Government interference and regulation. It may be different if we could go to Mexico and know they have cleaned up their corrupt, despotic and violent ways enough to provide "opportunity" for all. But this is not the case. This is a mere economic platform that only involves the decision making by a select few.

The problem I see is this and goes for me to, Most FReepers, True Conservatives, Classic Liberals and American Patriots think philosophically about our principles and Constitution. We desire a limited role of Government to protect our freedoms, rights and liberties not dispense the new version of them. Unfortunately, maybe inevitably, our Government has been dragged into a predominately economic role with economic interests overriding the principles of Government. These Agreements and treaties such as LOST are nothing more than economically powerful people doing what they do, which is fine as long as it's through free markets and not Government markets.

Whether you want call it conspiracy or not the fact remains that our principles are being sold out both within and without to a global economic system whose rules and regulations are written and controlled by a very few in large part because most of the world recognizes and wants the elites to rule or just simply doesn't understand what Liberty American style means or is willing to sell that Liberty for a few promises which if necessary could be taken away at any time.

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT

[Quix]

This is not new information to those who have done their homework and been paying attention.

It gets worse.

[af_vet_rr]

"Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

How is this different than what is going on right now?

I could understand a totally open border with Canada, if they were more careful about who they let fly into Canada, because it would reduce the size of the border we have to patrol, which could free up resources for elsewhere (i.e. Mexico). Jokes about Canada being the 51st state aside, they speak the same language (except that one portion that holds onto French, and hey, we have Louisiana as well ;-) ), there isn't a mass movement coming to work for cheap here in the US, etc. We have a lot in common, especially in regards to security.

Mexico on the other hand, hell no. They have no idea who comes into their country, they are such a poor and corrupt society, they practically encourage illegal emmigration to the US (through absentee voting, etc.), and well, we've seen what's been going on in Nuevo Laredo.

One thing I do worry about, is going beyond simple open borders, into a more complex integration. It just doesn't work. Didn't work for the Soviets, for the EU, etc. It just won't.