Posted on 07/13/2005 12:14:51 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
3 bombers were of Pakistani origin: London police
H S Rao in London | July 13, 2005 09:31 IST Last Updated: July 13, 2005 10:02 IST
Police on Wednesday said at least three of the bombers involved in bombing the London transport system are believed to be British males of Pakistani origin who lived in West Yorkshire in Leeds.
The bus bomber is believed to be dead, and police said there was "strong forensic and other evidence" a second bomber died at Aldgate. Investigators are now trying to establish if the other two are alive or died in the explosions.
A relative of one of the suspects was arrested in West Yorkshire on Tuesday and was being brought to London to be quizzed by the anti-terrorist branch.
Six search warrants were served on Tuesday under the Terrorism Act on houses in and around Leeds.
"These included the home addresses of three of the four men," an officer said. "A detailed forensic examination will now follow and this is likely to take time to complete."
The investigation has already established that personal documents bearing the names of three of the four men were found close to three of the explosions.
Armed officers and army bomb disposal experts took part in the pre-dawn raids on the properties in the Leeds area. Materials seized during the operation have been taken away for examination.
At least one controlled explosion was carried out ahead of a raid on one of the properties.
Around 500 to 600 people were evacuated from the area close to the address in the Burley district of Leeds at around 11.30 am.
A neighbour said a 22-year-old man had lived at the house on Hyde Park Road with his family but had gone missing.
A house in Lees Holm, Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, was one of those surrounded by police.
Neighbours said an Asian couple lived there with a young baby daughter. It is believed that the baby was aged about eight or nine months.
A neighbour said the couple had not been there for more than a year. She said the man was aged 29, while his wife was several years younger. The couple originally came from Pakistan but had moved from Leeds.
Earlier, police cordoned off a white semi-detached house in Colwyn Road, a quiet residential street in the Beeston area of the city, and a terrace house in Strateford Street, around two minutes' walk from Colwyn Road. Material seized during the raids have been taken away for examination.
The CCTV images showed the four men suspected had boarded a Thames link train at Luton, carrying rucksacks.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain said they have received the latest news from the police with "anguish, shock and horror."
He said, "It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings against innocent people.
"While the police investigation continues we reiterate our absolute commitment and resolve to helping the police bring to justice all involved in this crime of mass murder. Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers."
They are Muslims of Pakistani origin, not Indian. It was said in another article that the sucided bombers had travelled to Pakistan.
Allow more pakis and kashmiris to come to London and then allow them to collect funds for their " freedom struggle" in kashmir and gaza!!!! And when the indian and israeli govts. ask the british authorities to put a STOP to their activities, turn a blind eye!!!!! I am not surprised that the London blasts took place !!!! If Britain doesn't do more to stop activities of these pakis in britain , more such attacks will follow!!!!
Very true. Sad that Britain had to learn the lesson the hard way that its was never a good idea to give asylum to Muslim "seperatists", exiled Islamic leaders and other wanted criminals. And now there are scores of Islamic groups and Wahabbi schools operating from Britain carrying out recruitment for terrorists activities in different parts of the globe. The British government had uptill now allowed these groups a free run to use the British soil as a base to launch their activities and a launching pad for Jihad for many of these groups. Warnings from the Indian and Isreali governments fell on deaf ears.
And now the Islamic groups have turned on Britain itself. This attack is probably only the begining.
Every Muslim east of Saudi Arabia is a descendent of those who were forcibly converted. They ought to give up Islam and go back to their roots.
How are Muslims in your area? I've read a few articles over the last couple/three years about Muslims in India, that some are getting jihadi-ized, and others are not. What's your take on it?
Bombers, don't you know they are bombers like the Yankees the Bronx Bombers!
Oh, oh are they really "terrorists"? ;)
Oh, oh are they really "terrorists"? ;)
Laura Ingram was busting on the BBC this morning. They call them Bombers. I have a feeling this is going to be treated as a criminal matter by the Brits. When is the bombing going to start? When are they going to Bomb the Bombers?
STUNNED! WHO'DATHUNK?
http://www.saag.org/papers15/paper1456.html
LONDON BLASTS---FROM PAKISTAN WITH LOVE
I believe that "Pakistani" is a generic word, applied no matter from where in the Indian subcontinent a Muslim family actually came, and whether or not Pakistan existed when they emigrated.
I was thinking about Indian and Pakistani Muslims, (mostly lower caste Hindus who were forcibly converted, and some not lower caste), Indonesian and Thai Muslims, and so on. I read that when Muslims came to Indonesia, a lot of the brahmans fled to Bali, and that's why there's remnants of Hinduism in Bali still.
I thought "Indian" was a generic term and Pakistan specifically refered to the artificial contruct carved out of India in 1947.
You realise 150 Million Indian Muslims will disagree with you that the word does not apply on them. Indian Muslims exited for a thousand years before "Pakistan" was even born. Indian Muslims for all I know do not like being refered to as "Pakistanis" and strictly take it as an offense on being refered to as such (more so since the word "Pakistani" is quite often used by Hindu zealots as a slur for Indian Muslims).
Moreover the bulk of the Pakistani emigration to UK took place in the 60s when UK was facing a labour crisis. So Pakistan existed for well over a decade when these emigrations took place.
I dont think anybody would call himself a Pakistani if he/she emigrated well before Pakistan came into existance(and the term "Pakistan" being coined).
"How are Muslims in your area? I've read a few articles over the last
couple/three years about Muslims in India, that some are getting jihadi-ized,
and others are not. What's your take on it?"
Very much peaceful. I have lived for a long time in Poona (Poona has a large Muslim community including a lot of Iranians and Parsi-Zorastrians) and so far never had any problems with the Muslim community. Had plenty of Muslim friends in school, college and in my workplace and dont recall ever having a problem. Even during the Babri Mosque demolition, Bombay riots and the serial Bombay bombings(similar to London), Poona surprisingly, inspite of its proximity to Bombay, always remaind very calm. Not a single untoward incident took place.
In Maharashtra state some of the top ranking candidates in board exams(school level) have been Muslim girls hailing from Islamic schools. I have seen Muslim boys and girls comming from rural areas (who have had their education in religious schools) excelling in their carriers and their profession (in hi-tech areas such as engineering and IT). Although one must point out the fact that the religious schools operating (and proliferating) in the poorest of the rural areas often have excellent facilities that would have otherwise been beyond the means of an average/poor Muslims. Not surprising that these Islamic religious schools have their fundings comming from "outside India". Many of these well funded Islamic religious schools have introduced in their curricula (and have strongly emphasised the importance of) Science, Engineering and IT to integrate with the mainstream but along side they also enforce a strict Islamic(read Wahabbi) dress code for the girls (very different from the local Muslim ethos).
Most of the younger generation Muslims in large parts of Maharashtra (with the exception of Bombay) have been trying to integrate with the mainstream(even as they strictly hold on to their Islamic traditions). It would be worth mentioning that Mahrashtra is where large parts of the state
(especially Bombay) is still dominated by SS(Shiv Sena) one of India's most radical (and militant) hardline Hindu rightwing political group.
Bombay is major exception to all this. It is a city with a massive Muslim population. Bombay has all throughout been one of India's most vibrant and cosmopolitan city. Its the place where inter/intra community competition becomes much more cut throat. Muslims form an important part of Bombay's economy and worth mention that Bollywood is an industry that is dominated by Muslims. But of late (after the riots and the blasts) the Muslim community have been developing a "siege mentality". Radical Islamic organistation's like the Simi, JUI, Dar-ul-uloom have been covertly preaching Jihad and inciting young Muslims to take to violence. Organistations like the SIMI thrive where ever there have been a spate of riots. Morover the Mafia syndicate operating in Bombay(along with Dubai and Karachi) is Muslim dominated and have nexus with foreign terrorist groups. These mafia/terrorist/religious groups draw most of their cadres not from local Maharastrian Muslim community (one must make a distinction here) but from the huge population of illegal Bangaldeshi migrants who have been sneaking in across the border in Western Bengal for decades. Bangladesh is to India what Mexico is to the US with the difference that the migrants are mostly Muslims. They come directly to Bombay in search of jobs. The Communist government of West Bengal have been allowing this to happen for decades and now we have a situation in our hands. We now have a huge "alien" population (who arnt our "Indian" Muslims) and whose loyalities dont belong to India.
Thank you for the insight only a resident - who is paying attentin - can give.
Police on Wednesday said at least three of the bombers involved in bombing the London transport system are believed to be British males of Pakistani origin who lived in West Yorkshire in Leeds.
I am a little confused. I heard just this morning on the radio these bombers were homegrown British citizens. My wife heard the same thing. Did these guys immigrate to the UK from Pakistan or were they born in the UK?
Is this even clear at this point, or are they intentionally avoiding this?
See 38. Do you know?
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