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To: loftyheights
I'm saying that those who deny infant baptism (and baptism in general as the way to be saved)...

So, how was that thief on the cross able to make it into Paradise?
Or are you suggesting that Mormons would someday be vicariously baptised on his behalf, Jesus knew that would happen in the future, and so he let the guy in that day?

54 posted on 07/12/2005 2:30:05 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Great reply!


174 posted on 07/17/2005 4:06:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: XR7

XR7,
When I teach about Baptism I don't start with "what ifs" and the like. Theology is not done well when it is theology by casuistry. (This is how many leaders in my church body do theology, sadly) However, since this is where we are, let me tell you a story. I was having lunch one day at Acme Oyster House in New Orleans, sitting next to a nice gentleman. I was wearing my clerical collar. We were having a nice conversation until he brought up spirituality. He asked what Lutherans believe. I said that we believe in the forgiveness of sins through the merits of Christ, won on Calvary and bestowed in the sacraments. He brought it up, I didn't! He simply said, "So, if I'm not baptized and I walk out in the middle of that street and get run over by a truck, I won't go to heaven?" Since he despised baptism I called him to repentance by saying, "Yes." I think, speaking of the thief on the cross, that it is very reasonable to believe that he had been baptized. It is also true that it is not the lack of baptism which damns, but despising it. Your thoughts?


214 posted on 07/20/2005 8:40:30 PM PDT by loftyheights (Lutheran Loft)
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