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Democrats Smell Scandal, Want Rove Removed
CNSNews.com Senior Editor ^ | July 12, 2005 | By Susan Jones

Posted on 07/12/2005 5:23:40 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance

(CNSNews.com) -- Democrats think they've found a way to get rid of President Bush's political adviser Karl Rove, who has long been a favorite target of liberal wrath.

"Karl Rove and his high priced lawyers might disagree, but the truth is Rove betrayed the identity of an undercover officer fighting on the front lines in the war on terror. These actions are particularly egregious in a time of war," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean in a statement released Monday evening.

Dean said President Bush should demonstrate his commitment to the war on terror by holding Rove "accountable."

"It is disturbing that this high-ranking Bush adviser is not only still working in the White House, but now has a significant role in setting our National Security policy," Dean said.

Rove, who serves as deputy White House chief of staff, mentioned a CIA agent in passing, during a July 2003 conversation with Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper.

But Rove's lawyer now tells the Washington Post that Rove did not identify the agent by name and had no intention of "outing" her. (It is illegal to deliberately expose a covert agent whose identity the government is trying to conceal.)

Valerie Plame, the secret agent in question, is the wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a man who publicly challenged the Bush administration's claim that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Niger. Wilson accused the Bush administration of "outing" his wife as retaliation for his criticism.

'Wilson's wife'

Rove reportedly told Cooper that it was "Wilson' wife, who apparently works at the agency" -- who had arranged Wilson's trip to Niger.

A few days later, columnist Robert Novak named Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in a July 2003 column. It was Novak's column that prompted a grand jury investigation into the White House leak.

It's not clear if Rove was also Novak's source. It's also not clear if Rove is a target of the ongoing grand jury investigation

This week, Rove's lawyer told the Washington Post that Rove did not know the name of Wilson's wife when he spoke with Cooper, and he did not mention Wilson's wife to make her identity public. Rove mentioned "Wilson's wife" only to let Cooper know that no one in the Bush administration had sent Wilson to Niger -- and that Time shouldn't believe everything it was hearing from Wilson.

On the other hand, Democrats don't believe anything they're hearing from Rove.

They say his conversation with Time magazine's Cooper "raises a host of new unanswered questions," including:

-- Who told Rove about Wilson's wife? "Rove had to find out about Plame and her job from someone. Where did this information come from? Who else leaked besides Rove?" the DNC is asking.

-- Who in the Bush administration told New York Times reporter Judith Miller about Plame? "The information cannot have come from Rove, since Rove has 'released' Cooper from confidentiality," the DNC said. " If Rove were Miller's source, wouldn't he do the same for her? So who was Miller -- a reporter working on WMDs -- talking to?" (Miller is now serving time in jail for refusing to reveal her confidential source.)

-- Why did Rove previously deny his involvement in the Plame controversy? The DNC noted that in August 2004, Rove told reporters he didn't know Plame's name in July 2003 and did not leak her name.

But the DNC isn't buying that: "Since Wilson obviously had only one wife and everyone knew who it was, Rove unquestionably did identify Plame."

The DNC also is angry with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellen.

In October 2003, McClellan was asked at a White House briefing, "Scott, earlier this week you told us that neither Karl Rove, Elliot Abrams nor Lewis Libby disclosed any classified information with regard to the [Valerie Plame] leak. I wondered if you could tell us more specifically whether any of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?"

McClellan responded: "Those individuals -- I talked, I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out, and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this. And that's where it stands."

"Did Rove commit perjury in front of the grand jury?" the DNC is now asking. "We know his initial public statements and his statements to Scott McClellan were false. And we know that after testifying once, they (the grand jury) called him back. Did Rove change his answers to the grand jury the same way he changed his answers to the press?"

Suspend Rove's security clearance

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), a group with ties to Democrats, has sent a letter to President Bush, asking him to immediately suspend Karl Rove's security clearance, pending the outcome of the federal investigation into the leak of Valerie Plame's name.

"The evidence uncovered so far raises serious questions about Mr. Rove's conduct and his ability to safeguard highly sensitive classified information," Melanie Sloan, executive director of CREW, said in a press release.

"Until those questions are resolved, CREW believes it is not appropriate for Mr. Rove to have continued access to classified information. Anything short of suspension raises an unacceptable risk to our nation's security," Sloan wrote to Bush.

The White House is not commenting on the allegations involving Rove, citing the ongoing grand jury investigation.

President Bush previously said he would deal with anyone in his administration who leaked sensitive information.

"If somebody did leak classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate action," Bush said on Sept. 30, 2003. He called the investigation into the leak, launched that same day, "a good thing."

The White House is not likely to do anything or say anything more until that federal investigation is complete, but Democrats and liberal interest groups -- furious at the Bush administration for a number of reasons -- are not expected to let the matter rest.


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1 posted on 07/12/2005 5:23:40 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Dems love to stir a Tempest in a teapot.


2 posted on 07/12/2005 5:27:00 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Fierce Allegiance

When Sandy Berger goes to jail, that's when i'll ask for Rove to step down.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 5:27:43 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: Ron in Acreage

Thanks for reading it for me. I don't have the patience to read articles this long, but I thought someone may be interested enough to red it.

RE Berger, it's clear he did something wrong, but I doubt Rove did.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 5:30:50 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
This is all being investigated - all well and good. Find the facts and let the chips fall where they may.

But, to make the understatement of the week, I think that in light of all the Democrat-manufactured non-scandals with respect to the Bush administration, a healthy amount of skepticism is in order.
5 posted on 07/12/2005 5:31:17 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Alternate title: "Democrats Break Wind, Blame Rove"

The only scandal they are smelling emanates from themselves, IMO.


6 posted on 07/12/2005 5:32:03 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

bump


7 posted on 07/12/2005 5:33:42 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Rove has done nothing illegal. There was no discussion of covert operators. There was a discussion of Wilson's trip to check on uranium. He said that Wilson's wife authorized the trip and that she works at CIA.

1. He didn't use her name.

2. Authorizing travel is not a covert job. It's a personnel activity.


8 posted on 07/12/2005 5:34:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: lowbridge

Definitely.


9 posted on 07/12/2005 5:35:40 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

The President needs to come out TODAY and say that Karl Rove did not "out" Valerie Plame, and he will be staying on the President's team until the end of this administration. Period. The longer they can make headlines with this non-issue, the worse it will get.
Shame on that old Democrat, Novak, who sits like a sphinx with the real information, and won't give it up until October, when the grand jury term is over. He ought to be horse whipped for causing the President this grief when W should be working on serious issues. If there were real justice, Novak would be sitting in jail instead of Judith Miller.


10 posted on 07/12/2005 5:38:05 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Fierce Allegiance
When has a denial of a crime, when no crime appears to have been committed, a terminatable offense? No one owes this BS liberal MSM any explanation of anything. I still haven't heard any evidence that Rove "leaked" her name. My wife got me a job one time, when I was younger, does anyone here now know her name?
11 posted on 07/12/2005 5:38:21 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: xzins
Authorizing travel is not a covert job. It's a personnel activity.

Bingo! If she was a covert spy, her job would not be in the business of appointing people to special tasks. They would be the one SENT on special tasks. The email about Rove's involvement, clears Rove of the 'crime' the Democrats accuse him of committing.

12 posted on 07/12/2005 5:41:47 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Fierce Allegiance; MurryMom
...long been a favorite target of liberal wrath.

Who isn't? RATS may need to get their hate under control...

13 posted on 07/12/2005 5:43:16 AM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Just for a moment, let's give the Dumocrats their LSD induced fantasy. Even if Rove resigns, there is nothing short of a court order that can keep him and President Bush from planning strategy. I would actually like to see Rove resign, but continue with his present duties at no pay. What would the Dums say then?


14 posted on 07/12/2005 5:44:45 AM PDT by Niteranger68 ("Spare the rod, spoil the liberal.")
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To: Libloather

Nothing quite like getting a lecture about loyalty and patriotism from a liberal. I am amazed they can even utter the words.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 5:45:28 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: xzins
Rove has done nothing illegal. There was no discussion of covert operators. There was a discussion of Wilson's trip to check on uranium. He said that Wilson's wife authorized the trip and that she works at CIA.

You may be correct but it does beg the question "Why didn't Rove just tell everyone what he said to whom when the story broke"?

I hope we don't find out that Rove lied to Bush about his involvement. Rationalize all you want but Rove's statements to Cooper were designed to discredit Wilson, not out his wife, and to the MSM this is worse than outing a nobody! They want blood and I see Rove going down for this.

MoodyBlu

16 posted on 07/12/2005 5:45:41 AM PDT by MoodyBlu
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Democrats Smell

At least I agree with the first part of the title.

17 posted on 07/12/2005 5:45:42 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Fierce Allegiance

"Rove reportedly told Cooper that it was "Wilson' wife, who apparently works at the agency" -- who had arranged Wilson's trip to Niger."


So Cooper was wanting to discuss Wilson's trip to Niger with Rove. Got to wonder if Cooper knew WHO set this trip up the sole purpose appears to be the protection of Saddam, at least that is the way his article in the NYTimes reads.

JFKerry ran a whole campaign for president in support of saving Saddam and the French/Germans/Russian oil deals.

Sounds like a set up from the get go. Also got to wonder who gave Wilson and his woman the idea to begin with???


18 posted on 07/12/2005 5:47:20 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: sgtbono2002
Dems love to stir a Tempest in a teapot.

Let'em stir :) When this comes back to bite them on their butts, they'll have no one to blame but themselves. They're getting what they wanted, just not the way they wanted it. I love it. Bwah hah hah hah hah...

19 posted on 07/12/2005 5:49:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RacerF150

seriously ... who cares?


20 posted on 07/12/2005 5:49:04 AM PDT by republican2005
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