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AlQaida nukes already in the U.S.
world net daily ^ | July 11, 2005 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 07/12/2005 2:41:05 AM PDT by television is just wrong

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To: television is just wrong

I suppose it could be true.

But the US still holds a nuclear doctrine called MAD. All we have to do is point 25% of our nuclear arsenal at every population center in the middle east. If all-squida detonates a nuke or a series of nukes in the US, they potentially seal the death warrants of hundreds of millions muslims and permantly lose their holiest sites forever.

Wouldn't that be demorilizing for muslims to know that their 'all powerful' allah couldn't stop the US from turning Mecca into an uninhabitable glass parking lot for the next 10k years and that they couldn't fulfil their duties as muslims and had nowhere to point their heads and eat dirt?

They would be just as much the fools as the Soviets would have been during the cold war.


41 posted on 07/12/2005 4:31:05 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: television is just wrong
It does take a rocket scientist to determine that terrorists will use a nuke if & when they have them...... Their MO is multiple explosions.

I must agree that smuggling due to poor border control will lead to the deaths of many innocent men, women, & children...both Americans and illegal aliens.....

42 posted on 07/12/2005 4:31:12 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: television is just wrong
The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

If this suitcase nuke was built in 1988 as the article says, it's unlikely it would be activated by cellphone, which although invented, was in its infancy in 1988.

This story sounds more like a Tom Clancy book than reality.

43 posted on 07/12/2005 4:33:05 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: NeonKnight
I seriously doubt that any of these devices would be operable today. These things require routine maintenance.

Maybe they have already set a few of them off and they were duds.
44 posted on 07/12/2005 4:33:52 AM PDT by Maurice Tift
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To: television is just wrong

Nukes in the U.S. today? Maybe, maybe not. But with so much of the world hating us and so much of the world's resources in the hands of states and groups that hate us it seems inevitable.

If not nukes, then other WMDs (biological or chemical). Given the resources it seems a very small group is sufficient to deliver WMDs.

How do we prevent such threats? Closing the borders seems the only way. That would leave only the internal threats and conventional war with states to watch.

But can we do even that?


45 posted on 07/12/2005 4:35:27 AM PDT by FulshearTex
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To: NeonKnight

There is techonology to detect the neighborhood-level proximity of these bombs, even if they are lead shielded. I think it would be nice, prudent, if we made a few thousands of that technology and established a nationwide network.


46 posted on 07/12/2005 4:37:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: cbkaty

At least there are some precautions that conservatives can take that lefties simply won't contemplate:

1) Don't live or work within a mile of an obvious target if you can really help it. Maybe I would take a good job in Washington DC...but preferably my office would be more than one mile upwind of the mall. These nukes won't be that powerful.

2) Don't live or work downwind 5 miles of an obvious target.

3) Don't own real estate in the above areas of at least the 6 most likely to be targeted urban centers.

Those rules aren't that hard to abide by in the post 9-11 world. They would ruin the lives of about 4 million people if the fallout is bad enough. It would cost them all of Saudi Arabia, every last Palestinian, probably Damascus, Cairo, Peshawar, Karachi, Islamabad...and, and, and.

The nukes wouldn't destroy any American city. Just mess up the downtown, and irradiate hundreds of thousands in addition to the 50,000 or so who will die in the blast. It would be a small prinprick to deliver to America in return for the annihilation of much of Muslim civilization.


47 posted on 07/12/2005 4:39:12 AM PDT by GermanBusiness
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I have often wondered how many and where the weapons that were smuggled (source various stories and books)into the US during the cold war were buried or stored. A nuke would be hard to maintain for so many years without maintenance but high explosives should be able to be stored for long periods as well as automatic weapons and other devices.

Has anyone found any of these storage sites? Or has anyone been found that were sleeper USSR agents? The American Communist party received millions from the USSR so would expect that, if this is true, they had a hand in the storage and smuggling operation.
48 posted on 07/12/2005 4:41:37 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Mad Mammoth

"First, you insist that Iran will detonate an EMP nuke over America to fry our infrastructure, now you're going off about al Qaeda nukes "already" in the U.S.
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Even if they did, our military command and control centers are hardened and invulnerable to such an attack. All it would do is kill the lights for us civilians but our military and nuclear arsenal would be more than ready to duke it out.

They think what we did to Iraq was hot stuff? Iraq was a joke. We could have taken out every government in the entire middle east with little or no more forces than we have in Iraq right now...if we were to fight the war like wars were fought during WWII.

We're fighting this stupid war with both hands ties behind our back and our feet shackled. Waking this country up like what happened during WWII would be an utterly amazing and awesome spectacle. These stupid shithole countries and idiot terrorists over there have no idea what hell they'd unleash upon themselves. They'd better hope there’s an allah at that point because that’s where they'd all be going in a hurry.


49 posted on 07/12/2005 4:43:30 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: injin

"The only certain deterrence for this eventuality is for President Bush to clearly and publicly state that if we are hit with a nuke ,or nukes , in America , that we will nuke Mecca and Medina in immediate response"

I had a professor in 1979 at the University of Washington assert this same perspective during the Iranian hostage situation.

MAD should be updated to account for religious extremists.


50 posted on 07/12/2005 4:48:33 AM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: GermanBusiness
It would cost them all of Saudi Arabia, every last Palestinian, probably Damascus, Cairo, Peshawar, Karachi, Islamabad...and, and, and.

Tehran....numero uno!

51 posted on 07/12/2005 4:55:14 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: television is just wrong
Why has Bush refused to militarize and close the Mexican border?
52 posted on 07/12/2005 4:55:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodesiac!)
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MS-13 is an exreme paranoid and dangerous group, but they are not that stupid, they make their profit in the united states, helping it destroying it won't do any good.


53 posted on 07/12/2005 4:56:28 AM PDT by dutch52
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To: Savage Beast

What? And risk offending millions of GOP-leaning Hispanic voters? You must be kidding!


54 posted on 07/12/2005 4:56:36 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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This worries me to no end. They can also use their Time Machines to go back and get more nukes. And with their advanced Warp Drive ships they will be dropping them all over the place at the same time. Those crafty devils will no doubt think of a way to drop the same nuke over and over, perhaps using their Teleportaion Devices in those same Warp Drive ships. Damn, now I gave them another idea!


55 posted on 07/12/2005 4:57:45 AM PDT by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: DB
One needs evidence.

Otherwise it is just scaremongering to make money.

Where's the evidence?

I'm in full agreement. Until I see Geraldo Rivera taking us on a tour of all locations where the hidden weapons are located, I will not believe a word of any report that they exist.

/sarcasm

56 posted on 07/12/2005 4:58:41 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: television is just wrong

Saddam couldn't get one delivered to Iraq but the terrorists get 40 delivered to the US. Okie dokie.


57 posted on 07/12/2005 4:59:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: varon
Where's the evidence?

uhhhh...Maybe Geraldo could open Al Capone's vault again?

58 posted on 07/12/2005 5:07:24 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: taxed2death
Authorities speculate Whitaker is in hiding – others speculate those same authorities put him in hiding. Whatever way you look at it, the man who last directed "Hope Floats" appears to have lost all hope.

Hiding in front of the camera it seems:

Actor - filmography
1. Federal (2006) (announced)
2. The Last King of Scotland (2006) (filming) .... Idi Amin
3. Jump Shot (2005) (post-production) .... Clyde Snow
4. A Little Trip to Heaven (2005) (post-production) .... Holt
5. Mary (2005) (completed) .... Ted Younger
6. American Gun (2005) (completed) .... Carter
7. First Daughter (2004) (voice) .... Narrator
8. Deacons for Defense (2003) (TV) .... Marcus Clay
9. "The Twilight Zone" (2002) TV Series .... Host
10. Phone Booth (2002) .... Captain Ramey
11. Panic Room (2002) .... Burnham
12. "Feast of All Saints" (2001) (mini) TV Series .... Daguerreotypist Picard
... aka Anne Rice's The Feast of All Saints (USA: complete title)
13. The Fourth Angel (2001) .... Agent Jules Bernard
... aka Vengeance secrète (Canada: French title)
14. The Hire: The Follow (2001) (uncredited) .... The Employer
15. Green Dragon (2001) .... Addie
16. Four Dogs Playing Poker (2000) .... Mr. Ellington
... aka 4 Dogs Playing Poker (USA: video box title)
17. Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000 (2000) .... Ker
... aka Battlefield Earth (USA: short title)
18. Witness Protection (1999) (TV) .... Steven Beck
19. Light It Up (1999) .... Officer Dante Jackson
20. Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (1999) .... Ghost Dog
... aka Ghost Dog - Der Weg des Samurai (Germany)
... aka Ghost Dog, la voie du samouraï (France)

59 posted on 07/12/2005 5:10:24 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: cbkaty; All

I live and work in the DC metro area. I also have a CBNR shelter at home. The defense analysts I know very well think that my bunker is prudent.


60 posted on 07/12/2005 5:12:53 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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