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SCANDAL IMPLOSION (Rove/Cooper/Wilson)
NY Post ^ | July 12, 2005 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 07/11/2005 11:18:25 PM PDT by Howlin

I WROTE a column on Oct. 10, 2003, about the strange case of Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame.

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...I offered my speculation of what an administration official might have said to a journalist to explain just how Wilson — a Clinton administration official — got the assignment in the first place: "Administration official: 'We didn't send him there. Cheney's office asked CIA to get more information. CIA picked Wilson . . . Look, I hear his wife's in the CIA. He's got nothing to do. She wanted to throw him a bone.' "

Hate to say I told you so, but . . .

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There's no mistaking the purpose of this conversation between Cooper and Rove. It wasn't intended to discredit, defame or injure Wilson's wife. It was intended to throw cold water on the import, seriousness and supposedly high level of Wilson's findings.

While some may differ on the fairness of discrediting Joseph Wilson, it sure isn't any kind of crime.

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So if the offense wasn't against Plame, what of the offense against Wilson? There was no offense. As many of Joe Wilson's own hottest defenders would no doubt argue in relation to President Bush, exposing a liar is not only not a crime, it's a public service.

And Wilson lied. Repeatedly.

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What isn't controversial is this: Karl Rove didn't "out" Valerie Plame as a CIA agent to intimidate Joe Wilson. He was dismissing Joe Wilson as a low-level has-been hack to whom nobody should pay attention. He was right then, and if he said it today, he'd still be right.

And if Valerie wants to live a quiet spy life, she should stop having her picture taken by society photographers and stop getting stories written about her on the front page of the Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; cooper; hasbeen; miller; niger; plame; podhoretz; rove; wilson; yellowcake
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The rest is fabulous, too!
1 posted on 07/11/2005 11:18:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: cyncooper; Shermy; nopardons; MJY1288; Miss Marple; Mo1; deport; weegee; ...

One more.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 11:20:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Most excellent post! Been waiting for this one!


3 posted on 07/11/2005 11:20:24 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: JennysCool

I went looking for it.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 11:22:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
BWAHAHAHAHA !!!!

The perfect Rovian storm. Well kinda .

5 posted on 07/11/2005 11:23:35 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Family's)
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To: JennysCool

"Rove was suggesting to Cooper that that folks lower down in the CIA than its own director commandeered the process so that the husband of one of their own could get the gig. And the husband in question then went and misrepresented his findings to various journalists (The Washington Post's Walter Pincus and The New York Times's Nicholas Kristof) and then in his own now-famous Times op-ed. "


6 posted on 07/11/2005 11:24:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
And if Valerie wants to live a quiet spy life, she should stop having her picture taken by society photographers and stop getting stories written about her on the front page of the Times.

Add to this her husband's very public political influence within the dem party.

7 posted on 07/11/2005 11:24:33 PM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: Howlin
And Wilson lied. Repeatedly.

I still think all the leaks will lead back to Wilson himself.

8 posted on 07/11/2005 11:25:21 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: concerned about politics

If that happens, I will drive to where you are and we will dance in the street.


9 posted on 07/11/2005 11:26:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Thanks! I'm bookmarking ALL of these articles. :-)


10 posted on 07/11/2005 11:26:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JennysCool

Oh, nonsense.

We can't have our cake and eat it too.

Many here accused Kerry of treason - using a fairly wide description of that term.

Perhaps he was .. I dunno.

But Rove's committed a classic case of treason - deliberately outing a secret operative for base political motives - and Freepers seem willing to give him a get-out-of-jail card.

What rank hypocrisy.

Sadim


11 posted on 07/11/2005 11:26:48 PM PDT by sadimgnik
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To: Howlin
If that happens, I will drive to where you are and we will dance in the street.

I will meet you all there.

12 posted on 07/11/2005 11:28:24 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: eric_da_grate
Add to this her husband's very public political influence within the dem party.

And revenge for getting publicly slapped in the face for lying about Africa is one heck of a good motive.

13 posted on 07/11/2005 11:28:27 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: nopardons

On the Latest Posts page, if you click on CIA, they all should be there!


14 posted on 07/11/2005 11:29:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
If that happens, I will drive to where you are and we will dance in the street.

I'm going to remember that too, Howlin. I'll be watching for your car.

15 posted on 07/11/2005 11:30:32 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: sadimgnik
Gusee you didn't actually go to the article.

No surprise, probably. You surface-skimmers never do.:

What isn't controversial is this: Karl Rove didn't "out" Valerie Plame as a CIA agent to intimidate Joe Wilson. He was dismissing Joe Wilson as a low-level has-been hack to whom nobody should pay attention. He was right then, and if he said it today, he'd still be right.

And if Valerie Plame wants to live a quiet spy life, she should stop having her picture taken by society photographers and stop getting stories written about her on the front page of the Times.

16 posted on 07/11/2005 11:30:42 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: sadimgnik
But Rove's committed a classic case of treason - deliberately outing a secret operative for base political motives - and Freepers seem willing to give him a get-out-of-jail card. What rank hypocrisy.

It always helps to have the FACTS before you accuse othres of hypocrisy. Otherwise you look like a complete and utter fool.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 11:30:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

BUMP!!


18 posted on 07/11/2005 11:31:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sadimgnik
But Rove's committed a classic case of treason - deliberately outing a secret operative for base political motives - and Freepers seem willing to give him a get-out-of-jail card.

Rove didnt out anybody..

19 posted on 07/11/2005 11:31:38 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Relocate Guantanamo inmates to Dick "Rhymes with Turban" Durbin's house..)
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To: concerned about politics

It is almost too much to hope for, isn't it?


20 posted on 07/11/2005 11:31:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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