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To: TheGeezer
I've heard this over and over, but is there a source that proves this?

One of the most frustrating things about this case is that every debate on the tube turns into one person saying "She was known before" and the other saying "No she wasn't!"

I'm looking around right now but if anyone has a link to the facts of Plame's situation, I'd appreciate their posting it.

9 posted on 07/11/2005 5:58:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Darkwolf377

It was known that she was CIA. It may not have been known that she was covert, but it doesn't matter - Rove never told anyone she was covert.


47 posted on 07/11/2005 6:44:50 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: Darkwolf377
Podhertz in the NY Post tomorrow will quote Wilson's 1993 interview in which WILSON revealed his wife's CIA employment.

NBC's Andrea Mitchell on Sunday also stated that Plame worked for the CIA in some sort of administrative capacity was well known by D.C. insiders. I read that somewhere Sunday evening, but I cannot recall or find where. In any case, watch for Podhertz's article in the NY Post tomorrow.
52 posted on 07/11/2005 6:52:50 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Darkwolf377






Secrets of the Scandal
By Nicholas D. Kristof
October 11, 2003


Like any good spy story, the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson is far more complex than it seems on the surface.

I know Mrs. Wilson, but I knew nothing about her C.I.A. career and hadn't realized she's "a hell of a shot with an AK-47," as a classmate at the C.I.A. training "farm," Jim Marcinkowski, recalls. I'll be more careful around her, for she also turns out to be skilled in throwing hand grenades and to have lived abroad and run covert operations in some of the world's messier spots. (Mrs. Wilson was not a source for this column or any other that I've written about the intelligence community.)

Those operations remain secret, but there are several crucial facts that can be made public without putting anyone at risk — and together, they leave everybody looking bad. The C.I.A. is now conducting a damage assessment, which will determine what networks and operations it will have to close down. But my sense is that Democrats exaggerate the damage to Mrs. Wilson's career and to her personal security, while Republicans vastly play down the enormity of the security breach and the danger to the assets she worked with.

And now a few pertinent facts:

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.

Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" — which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "C.I.A." stamped on her forehead.

Third, Mrs. Wilson's intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the C.I.A. and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the C.I.A.'s career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited.

All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over.

Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House. Hillary Rodham Clinton knows better than anyone how destructive and distracting a special counsel investigation can be, interfering with the basic task of governing, and it's sad to see her display the same pusillanimous partisanship that Republicans showed just a few years ago.

If Democrats have politicized the scandal and exaggerated it, Republicans have inexcusably tried to whitewash it. The leak risked the security of all operatives who had used Brewster-Jennings as cover, as well as of all assets ever seen with Mrs. Wilson. Unwitting sources will now realize that they were supplying the C.I.A. with information, and even real agents may fear exposure and vanish.

C.I.A. veterans are seething, and rightly so, at the betrayal by their own government. Larry Johnson, who entered the agency at the same time as Mrs. Wilson, is a Republican who voted for President Bush — and he's so enraged that he compares the administration leaker to the spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen.

"Here's a woman who put her life on the line," Mr. Johnson said. "But unlike a Navy seal or a marine, she didn't have a gun to fight back. All she had to protect her was her cover."

We in journalism are also wrong, I think, to extend professional courtesy to Robert Novak, by looking beyond him to the leaker. True, he says he didn't think anyone would be endangered. Working abroad in ugly corners of the world, American journalists often learn the identities of American C.I.A. officers, but we never publish their names. I find Mr. Novak's decision to do so just as inexcusable as the decision of administration officials to leak it.

This scandal leaves everybody stinking


68 posted on 07/11/2005 7:20:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darkwolf377

try

http://www.therant.info/archive/001187.html


80 posted on 07/11/2005 7:46:50 PM PDT by Raycpa
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