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Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal
Reuters ^ | 07/11/05 | Adam Entous

Posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:32 PM PDT by Pikamax

Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:04 PM ET

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House faced mounting Democratic calls for President Bush to sideline or fire his top political aide Karl Rove on Monday over his involvement in a CIA leak scandal.

After publicly defending Rove two years ago, the White House responded to the barrage by saying it would not comment at the request of the prosecutors investigating who leaked the identify of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

"The White House promised if anyone was involved in the Valerie Plame affair, they would no longer be in this administration. I trust they will follow through on this pledge," Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said.

Other Democrats urged Bush to sideline Rove by suspending his access to classified information and said the deputy White House chief of staff should "clear the air" by answering questions from Congress. Another lawmaker said the intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity amounted to an "act of treason."

The attacks were prompted by reports that Rove was one of the secret sources who spoke to Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper about Plame and her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson. The Washington Post on Monday quoted Rove's lawyer as saying that his client did not mention Plame by name.

Plame's name was leaked, her diplomat husband said, because of his criticism of the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war. Rove's lawyer was not immediately available to comment.

"The president should immediately suspend Karl Rove's security clearances and shut him down by shutting him out of classified meetings or discussions," said Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat.

"It is time for the President to keep his word. Karl Rove should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law," said Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York. Several other Democrats have also called on Rove to explain his role or resign.

Rep. Henry Waxman, a California Democrat and the ranking minority member of the House Government Reform Committee, called for a congressional hearing to hear testimony from Rove, who is widely seen as the architect of Bush's election victories.

"The recent disclosures about Mr. Rove's actions have such serious implications that we can no longer responsibly ignore them. The intentional disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity would be an act of treason," Waxman said.

Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, wrote the White House asking Rove to "tell Americans what he knew, when he knew it, and who he may have told about Valerie Plame's identity in order to clear the air once and for all."

A U.S. federal judge had ordered Cooper, along with New York Times reporter Judith Miller, to testify in the case and reveal their sources. Cooper avoided a jail sentence last week by agreeing to testify. Miller refused to testify and was jailed.

INUNDATED WITH QUESTIONS

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, who was inundated with questions about Rove at his daily news briefing, declined to comment when asked whether Bush continued to have confidence in Rove. "You're asking this question in the context of an ongoing investigation, and I would not read anything into it," McClellan said of his refusal to comment.

McClellan also refused to say whether Rove's job could be changed, or whether Bush stood by his pledge to fire anybody found responsible for the leak.

"I think we all want to see the prosecutors get to the bottom of this matter, the president wants to see the prosecutors get to the bottom of this matter," McClellan said.

A grand jury investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, a Justice Department prosecutor, is seeking to determine who in the Bush administration leaked Plame's name to the media in 2003 and whether any laws were violated.

McClellan would not address what critics said were contradictory statements issued in the past by the White House and now by Rove's lawyer.

"I am well aware of what was said previously. I remember well what was said previously, and at some point, I look forward to talking about it. But until the investigation is complete, I'm just not going to do that," McClellan said.

In September and October 2003, McClellan rejected as "ridiculous" any suggestion that Rove was involved in the Plame leak.

When asked at an Oct. 10, 2003, briefing whether Rove and two other White House aides had ever told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA, McClellan said: "I spoke with those individuals... and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this... the leaking of classified information."


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To: Pikamax
wow, you mean Dummie-crats want Rove crucified? Imagine that.

I guess President Bush just better roll over and give Rove up... ROTFLMFAO!!!

61 posted on 07/11/2005 7:09:28 PM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: golfboy

Yup, I think the pigs about to get roasted


62 posted on 07/11/2005 7:14:18 PM PDT by benben
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To: Pikamax
If Carl Rove was the source of the leak (assuming there was such a "leak"), the two, ahem...journalists, would be wetting their pants trying to be the first to REVEAL their source and be the hero of liberals everywhere.

There is ZERO chance that Rove is involved.

63 posted on 07/11/2005 7:15:19 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings

I think his name is Karl Rove


64 posted on 07/11/2005 7:16:33 PM PDT by benben
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To: Pikamax

I do not know what the final outcome of this will be.However I do feel that Rove was irresponsible to talk to any reporter in this way.A person of his experience should not be warning reporters of their errors.It appears that no one in Washington can keep their mouths closed in their incessant yearning to be unnamed sources. This might be a good lesson.How many people could have avoided trouble by simply saying "no comment".


65 posted on 07/11/2005 7:17:23 PM PDT by Howe_D_Dewty
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To: Howe_D_Dewty

FGS, why not wait until you hear the ENTIRE story before you're so damn judgmental.


66 posted on 07/11/2005 7:18:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: prophetic

That is EXACTLY right! It's shades of Orwell's 'doublespeak'....only in this case, it's called 'Libspeak' (same thing).

If I'm not sure what side of an issue to come down on re: a particular issue, I can always fall back on the 'any side but the Leftists' side'....and it works perfectly every time!

Not only that, but I used to be a 'on the fencer' regarding the abortion issue. But now, thanks to the Lefties and their antics/stunts since 2000, I am 100% AGAINST abortion! Anything and I do mean ANYthing the Leftists are 'for'....

I am solidly 'against'.

Know thine enemy or thine enemy will conquer you. My enemy is Leftist (Socialist) Liberal DemocRATS.


67 posted on 07/11/2005 7:18:44 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Darkwolf377






Secrets of the Scandal
By Nicholas D. Kristof
October 11, 2003


Like any good spy story, the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson is far more complex than it seems on the surface.

I know Mrs. Wilson, but I knew nothing about her C.I.A. career and hadn't realized she's "a hell of a shot with an AK-47," as a classmate at the C.I.A. training "farm," Jim Marcinkowski, recalls. I'll be more careful around her, for she also turns out to be skilled in throwing hand grenades and to have lived abroad and run covert operations in some of the world's messier spots. (Mrs. Wilson was not a source for this column or any other that I've written about the intelligence community.)

Those operations remain secret, but there are several crucial facts that can be made public without putting anyone at risk — and together, they leave everybody looking bad. The C.I.A. is now conducting a damage assessment, which will determine what networks and operations it will have to close down. But my sense is that Democrats exaggerate the damage to Mrs. Wilson's career and to her personal security, while Republicans vastly play down the enormity of the security breach and the danger to the assets she worked with.

And now a few pertinent facts:

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.

Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" — which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "C.I.A." stamped on her forehead.

Third, Mrs. Wilson's intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the C.I.A. and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the C.I.A.'s career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited.

All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over.

Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House. Hillary Rodham Clinton knows better than anyone how destructive and distracting a special counsel investigation can be, interfering with the basic task of governing, and it's sad to see her display the same pusillanimous partisanship that Republicans showed just a few years ago.

If Democrats have politicized the scandal and exaggerated it, Republicans have inexcusably tried to whitewash it. The leak risked the security of all operatives who had used Brewster-Jennings as cover, as well as of all assets ever seen with Mrs. Wilson. Unwitting sources will now realize that they were supplying the C.I.A. with information, and even real agents may fear exposure and vanish.

C.I.A. veterans are seething, and rightly so, at the betrayal by their own government. Larry Johnson, who entered the agency at the same time as Mrs. Wilson, is a Republican who voted for President Bush — and he's so enraged that he compares the administration leaker to the spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen.

"Here's a woman who put her life on the line," Mr. Johnson said. "But unlike a Navy seal or a marine, she didn't have a gun to fight back. All she had to protect her was her cover."

We in journalism are also wrong, I think, to extend professional courtesy to Robert Novak, by looking beyond him to the leaker. True, he says he didn't think anyone would be endangered. Working abroad in ugly corners of the world, American journalists often learn the identities of American C.I.A. officers, but we never publish their names. I find Mr. Novak's decision to do so just as inexcusable as the decision of administration officials to leak it.

This scandal leaves everybody stinking


68 posted on 07/11/2005 7:20:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pikamax
Gosh, it's heart-warming to see the Dems trying so hard to look out after Bush's reputation.

I think they should fire Teddy Kennedy for being fat and stupid. Do I need a better reason?

69 posted on 07/11/2005 7:22:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Howlin

Ahh profanity now..I stand by my words.Had he said "no comment" this would not even be a thread on this topic..No comment on rush to judgment..


70 posted on 07/11/2005 7:23:25 PM PDT by Howe_D_Dewty
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To: Billthedrill

in ten years it'll only be so much paper


71 posted on 07/11/2005 7:23:55 PM PDT by benben
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To: Pikamax
This is all turning into quite a snoozer.

Note to Dimwitocrats: Nobody in the real world cares.

72 posted on 07/11/2005 7:25:42 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: benben

Welcome to FR, little newbie lefty baby. Is benben what your mommy calls you?


73 posted on 07/11/2005 7:28:26 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: facedown

yeah, i'm ready for a nap. just relax. this will blow-over in no time.


74 posted on 07/11/2005 7:28:48 PM PDT by benben
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To: Howlin
Working abroad in ugly corners of the world, American journalists often learn the identities of American C.I.A. officers, but we never publish their names. I find Mr. Novak's decision to do so just as inexcusable as the decision of administration officials to leak it.

This has been my position all along--reporters learn all kinds of information but they're the ones who get it into print. The buck stops at the reporter. Or should. If not, where does it end--with the person who gave the source the information in the first place? The person who gave HIM/HER the info that trickled down to the source?

No, because all of those people knew that info and there were no problems. When did it become a problem? When the reporter wrote about it.

This, of course, is the angle the MSM will not admit. They'd rather cry "Stop us before we report again!"

75 posted on 07/11/2005 7:28:52 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Darkwolf377
the decision of administration officials to leak it.

and a nice inferrence that it MUST have been a Bush admin official who leaked it.

76 posted on 07/11/2005 7:32:23 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

Say what you will, but when I read his name, it say Karl Rove, not Carl Rove. Maybe that guy doesnt read, maybe he doesnt have to.


77 posted on 07/11/2005 7:34:33 PM PDT by benben
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To: Pikamax

They need to stop giving in to their "urges".


78 posted on 07/11/2005 7:37:09 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Darkwolf377; hipaatwo
From another thread:

To: Howlin
Why Judith Miller Should Stay In Jail (snip) The truth could very well be that Judith Miller is protecting a "source" all right─ Miller herself. She may have known the truth about Plame all along but didn't write a story because of that fact. So, instead, she passed that information on to the administration. http://www.aim.org/aim_column/3833_0_3_0_C/
200 posted on 07/11/2005 10:29:39 PM EDT by hipaatwo

79 posted on 07/11/2005 7:39:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darkwolf377

try

http://www.therant.info/archive/001187.html


80 posted on 07/11/2005 7:46:50 PM PDT by Raycpa
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