Posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:32 PM PDT by Pikamax
I guess President Bush just better roll over and give Rove up... ROTFLMFAO!!!
Yup, I think the pigs about to get roasted
There is ZERO chance that Rove is involved.
I think his name is Karl Rove
I do not know what the final outcome of this will be.However I do feel that Rove was irresponsible to talk to any reporter in this way.A person of his experience should not be warning reporters of their errors.It appears that no one in Washington can keep their mouths closed in their incessant yearning to be unnamed sources. This might be a good lesson.How many people could have avoided trouble by simply saying "no comment".
FGS, why not wait until you hear the ENTIRE story before you're so damn judgmental.
That is EXACTLY right! It's shades of Orwell's 'doublespeak'....only in this case, it's called 'Libspeak' (same thing).
If I'm not sure what side of an issue to come down on re: a particular issue, I can always fall back on the 'any side but the Leftists' side'....and it works perfectly every time!
Not only that, but I used to be a 'on the fencer' regarding the abortion issue. But now, thanks to the Lefties and their antics/stunts since 2000, I am 100% AGAINST abortion! Anything and I do mean ANYthing the Leftists are 'for'....
I am solidly 'against'.
Know thine enemy or thine enemy will conquer you. My enemy is Leftist (Socialist) Liberal DemocRATS.
Secrets of the Scandal
By Nicholas D. Kristof
October 11, 2003
Like any good spy story, the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson is far more complex than it seems on the surface.
I know Mrs. Wilson, but I knew nothing about her C.I.A. career and hadn't realized she's "a hell of a shot with an AK-47," as a classmate at the C.I.A. training "farm," Jim Marcinkowski, recalls. I'll be more careful around her, for she also turns out to be skilled in throwing hand grenades and to have lived abroad and run covert operations in some of the world's messier spots. (Mrs. Wilson was not a source for this column or any other that I've written about the intelligence community.)
Those operations remain secret, but there are several crucial facts that can be made public without putting anyone at risk — and together, they leave everybody looking bad. The C.I.A. is now conducting a damage assessment, which will determine what networks and operations it will have to close down. But my sense is that Democrats exaggerate the damage to Mrs. Wilson's career and to her personal security, while Republicans vastly play down the enormity of the security breach and the danger to the assets she worked with.
And now a few pertinent facts:
First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.
Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" — which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "C.I.A." stamped on her forehead.
Third, Mrs. Wilson's intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the C.I.A. and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the C.I.A.'s career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited.
All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over.
Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House. Hillary Rodham Clinton knows better than anyone how destructive and distracting a special counsel investigation can be, interfering with the basic task of governing, and it's sad to see her display the same pusillanimous partisanship that Republicans showed just a few years ago.
If Democrats have politicized the scandal and exaggerated it, Republicans have inexcusably tried to whitewash it. The leak risked the security of all operatives who had used Brewster-Jennings as cover, as well as of all assets ever seen with Mrs. Wilson. Unwitting sources will now realize that they were supplying the C.I.A. with information, and even real agents may fear exposure and vanish.
C.I.A. veterans are seething, and rightly so, at the betrayal by their own government. Larry Johnson, who entered the agency at the same time as Mrs. Wilson, is a Republican who voted for President Bush — and he's so enraged that he compares the administration leaker to the spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen.
"Here's a woman who put her life on the line," Mr. Johnson said. "But unlike a Navy seal or a marine, she didn't have a gun to fight back. All she had to protect her was her cover."
We in journalism are also wrong, I think, to extend professional courtesy to Robert Novak, by looking beyond him to the leaker. True, he says he didn't think anyone would be endangered. Working abroad in ugly corners of the world, American journalists often learn the identities of American C.I.A. officers, but we never publish their names. I find Mr. Novak's decision to do so just as inexcusable as the decision of administration officials to leak it.
This scandal leaves everybody stinking
I think they should fire Teddy Kennedy for being fat and stupid. Do I need a better reason?
Ahh profanity now..I stand by my words.Had he said "no comment" this would not even be a thread on this topic..No comment on rush to judgment..
in ten years it'll only be so much paper
Note to Dimwitocrats: Nobody in the real world cares.
Welcome to FR, little newbie lefty baby. Is benben what your mommy calls you?
yeah, i'm ready for a nap. just relax. this will blow-over in no time.
This has been my position all along--reporters learn all kinds of information but they're the ones who get it into print. The buck stops at the reporter. Or should. If not, where does it end--with the person who gave the source the information in the first place? The person who gave HIM/HER the info that trickled down to the source?
No, because all of those people knew that info and there were no problems. When did it become a problem? When the reporter wrote about it.
This, of course, is the angle the MSM will not admit. They'd rather cry "Stop us before we report again!"
and a nice inferrence that it MUST have been a Bush admin official who leaked it.
Say what you will, but when I read his name, it say Karl Rove, not Carl Rove. Maybe that guy doesnt read, maybe he doesnt have to.
They need to stop giving in to their "urges".
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