Posted on 07/11/2005 11:40:24 AM PDT by hsmomx3
Think about how people in the Philippines or Thailand regard Americans when it comes to this topic. I'm not part of the "hate America" team, but this is one particular area where we don't rate at all well. Partly it's just due to our wealth, which enables our pervs to provide massive patronage of child-perv industries in countries with limited resources for enforcement. Americans (along with other Westerners) are a major part of this "tourism". But we've also got plenty of homegrown sickos -- mostly the less wealthy ones -- who stay right here and do their thing. Our own law enforcement agencies have done massive round-ups of these pervs who were identified via their Internet activities, and most are American born.
The most serious problem that illegal immigrants are importing is violent gangs, most of which are built around an illegal drug trafficking. Think MS13. And of course, the stream of al-Qaeda-affiliated operatives who slip in unnoticed -- as we studiously ignore the mobs of illegals who are crossing for strictly economic reasons, lots of people who want to be studiously ignored are crossing along with the mobs, but for much more nefarious reasons.
I think you are splitting hairs here and missing the forest....for the trees.
My understanding was that regular TB treatment runs about $2000 per patient, and only the treatment for rare drug-resistant TB runs significantly higher.
Another disease, CHAGAS. Incurable.
I'd have to do some digging but those numbers were in an article posted here on FR about a month ago...
The MSM will remain mum on this subject unless someone they care about personally catches TB, leprosy or Hepatitis whatever from an illegal. Then it will be Bush's fault.
No problem. They're only carrying the diseases that Americans don't want.
You need to buy a Berky Light water purifier. I've got one and it does a great job on what I thought was good tap water.
Privatize profits; socialize costs.
I had a matter involving an illegal mexican who was diagnosed with leprosy. About two years ago.
Agreed. This must be exposed ASAP - with all the hospital closings, we'll all be dead.
Is the Bilderburg Group really in charge of our country? Why is it that there is apparently a core group of people that want to destroy what we have. Do they truly hate us and America so much? I'm in my late '40's and this isn't the same country I was born in. It isn't even the same country that I became an adult in.
Yikes! Where in Az are you?
He's right about that, but they have also been linked to legal immigrants, namely those from South East Asia, during the seventies and eighties.
The opposition will not hesitate to use misstatements like this to discredit the anti-illegal immigration movement. Better to get the record corrected quickly, before people who read it here go repeat it in other places, and open themselves up to distracting and embarrassing corrections from political opponents.
And the mode of transmission is ....?
You take your chances with it if you like. I, for one, prefer the legal system's requirement of at least a minimal standard of healthiness and vaccinations for each immigrant as a precondition for admittance into these United States.
IMO, those who steal their way into the US and are discovered carrying disease ought be treated as though they would be carrying deadly weapons and prosecuted likewise, with their host country billed for care and/or incarceration.
Will you site the percentages of American born versus foreign born?
Unfortunately there is no way to diagnose leprosy before it becomes symptomatic -- usually 4-6 years after infection, but sometimes as long as 20 -- and no vaccine. TB and polio are much easier to detect and there is an effective vaccine for polio, so those diseases can be the subject of immigration laws. But not leprosy (which isn't a problem anyway, with only about 100 cases a year in the U.S.). Worrying about TB and polio is well-founded, but when you hear someone babbling about the threat of an immigrant-caused leprosy epidemic, you can be confident that the speaker is clueless on the subject of public health.
That's interesting info, thanks. I Googled this after reading your post:
Carville Researcher Questions Armadillo-Leprosy Findings
http://pandoras-box.org/my09016.htm
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The role of the lowly armadillo in leprosy research began in 1971 when Carville researchers found that some armadillos are susceptible to leprosy and can become a good source of leprosy bacilli (called Mycobacterium leprae) for research. The relatively low body temperature of the armadillo is conducive to the growth of M. leprae.
This discovery was considered a scientific breakthrough because M. leprae as yet has not been cultured In the laboratory for study.
GSRI, which lives on research grants, offered no evidence of the source of the armadillo infection and said further studies were needed. Dr. W. M. Meyers of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington subsequently supported the GSRI claim, but his report was based on samples supplied to him by GSRI, and not on armadillos caught independently.
In explanation of the alleged natural leprosy, Meyers said the infection was most likely transmitted to the armadillos in Louisiana from human cases of leprosy. However, no new cases of human leprosy have been reported from 1967 to 1976 in the Acadiana district where GSRI allegedly found the disease in armadillos, Kirchheimer says.
Meyer's report also does not account for the fact that practically all leprosy patients in the United States are being treated, he says. (Besides, modern treatment renders patients non-infectious within a short time.)
"How did the armadillos get leprosy when there was no human leprosy around from which the armadillos could contract it," he remarks.
Armadillos are often, caught for experimental use on the grounds of the hospital where leprosy patients walk every day, he adds. However, leprosy has not been found in any of these armadillos. he says.
Last month the GSRI theory was rehashed with a new twist. A warning was issued to state residents with a fancy for armadillo meat that the animals may carry leprosy. The statement came from Dr. William Cherry, secretary of the state Department of Health and Human Resources.
(Kirchheimer's advice: "It you catch a lepromatous armadillo and cook it, go ahead and eat it. It is no more harmful than cooking pork to get rid of trichinosis.")
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