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Kristol warns: Bush wants Gonzales for Chief Justice
Fox News Sunday | July 10, 2005 | colonel mosby

Posted on 07/10/2005 7:19:51 AM PDT by colonel mosby

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To: colonel mosby

"Panelists Juan Williams and CeCe Connolly applauded this notion, and felt it was a worthy compromise."

Well that makes it a dog's dinner right there.


182 posted on 07/10/2005 8:53:59 PM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: Howlin

And I am willing to bet that the Doom and Gloomers (D&Gs) will ignore the FACTS. Rush vocabulary: Doom and Gloomers = liberals!


183 posted on 07/10/2005 8:55:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: DevSix
I grudgingly can see where that point of view comes from. But, again, his work on the Bollinger case still gives me great concern. No one who claims to be a strict interpretationist would water down their brief in the manner that he did.

I still disagree with you on the incrementalism aspect. The Court is not supposed to be an incremental body - it is to decide whether a law is constitutional or not. Incrementalism lends credence to the Consitution being a living and breathing one, and allows the justices to read into the Constitution their own personal (political) beliefs, like O'Connor has done, and which I gather you would oppose. You seem to be saying to put someone on the Court who will not overturn Roe, Bollinger, Lawrence, and other abominations, but will somehow lay the groundwork for their being overturned until society is ready to handle it. But the longer these travesties remain as "law", the harder it will be to overcome, regardless of how much "groundwork" is laid (see the Miranda history). Society sure as heck wasn't "readied" by "moderate" decisions leading us to Roe or Lawrence, so no point in waiting for them to get them overturned.

184 posted on 07/10/2005 8:56:41 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, son of Jor-el!)
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To: DouglasKC
I almost believe that Gonzales may be a stealth candidate groomed by Bush just for the Supreme Court. Appear moderate, but really judge as a conservative.

Based on what Gonzales did while in the Supreme court in Texas, why in the world would you believe that?

185 posted on 07/10/2005 8:57:19 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: DouglasKC

bingo


186 posted on 07/10/2005 8:58:53 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: highball

The reason it was interpreted as personal attacks on Gonzales was because it WAS personal attacks on Gonzales. I couldn't believe the lies and half truths I saw on this website and a little research by the poster would have turned up the lies but that wasn't the agenda.


187 posted on 07/10/2005 8:58:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: GreatOne
But, again, his work on the Bollinger case still gives me great concern.

It does for me as well (to a point) - But this is where I allow myself to trust the judgment of GWB.

I simply trust the man. And he knows Mr. Gonzalez much better than I.

188 posted on 07/10/2005 8:59:17 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Howlin
In 2000, he did NOT get a call from the Bush-Cheney team to come work in the White House!

Which made me very grateful since he was/is a McCainiac. He had very little good to say about GW and then got his nose bent out of shape when he didn't get a job -- go figure.

189 posted on 07/10/2005 9:01:22 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: Paloma_55
If we beat up Gonzales publically, we might just end up getting two softies for the USSC instead of one.

Good grief, talk about a compromising defeatist attitude. Why in the world shouldn't each and every one us DEMAND that Bush keep the promise HE made and appoint Scalia-like originalist judges when the Republicans have 55 votes in the Senate?

He can only get away with compromising if people like you don't hold him and the Republican party accountable. Conservatives will never see any real change if the Republicans know they can do anything they want and people like you will accept it and vote for them anyway.

Bush is going to what he was elected to do, promised he would do OR the Republicans party will pay a price that few parties have ever paid. Do what you promised or lose power.

190 posted on 07/10/2005 9:04:10 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: conservativecorner

That's right. Bush DID make a promise. His whole Presidency is based on the premise that he "says what he does and does what he says." He can have no credibility left and a guaranteed legacy as a failed President if he breaks his promise, especially on an issue people will remember for decades.


191 posted on 07/10/2005 9:06:42 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: PhiKapMom

And a Keyester.


192 posted on 07/10/2005 9:07:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ol' Sparky

Go ahead...make my day.


193 posted on 07/10/2005 9:07:34 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: chris1
I was one of GWB's biggest cheerleaders in 2000 when he was running, and in 2004. But something has changed with him since re-election. He seems to have lost his way and has become just another typical DC pol.

It's called not having to be re-elected. We bent over backwards supporting the guy twice, now he tells us to stay bent over and take it in the patoot. His dad is practically stumping for a Clinton WH return, and the Senate we voted in is full of traitors.

We pay twice as much in gas to help his oil buddies out and watch our soldiers and civilian contractors get beheaded while he says Islam is peace. Spends our money like a drunken sailor in third world hellholes and pork projects too.

But yet he was a better choice than Kerry - shows what we have come to.
194 posted on 07/10/2005 9:09:35 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain (being objective does NOT mean Natalee deserved whatever happened or that her mom isn't sincere)
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To: uscabjd
Also, with some exceptions, this has been a fairly conservative court for the past generation.

What hell are you babbling about? This has been one of the most liberal courts in the history of the nation, from emminent domain to overturning sodomy laws, this court has shown NO regard for the Constitution.

The court way out of the mainstream, doesn't represent the people and creates laws and rights out of thin air. It's not acceptable if Bush and the Republicans don't keep their promise to appoint Scalia-like originalists and the consquences of not doing so are going to be catastrophic.

195 posted on 07/10/2005 9:10:16 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Paloma_55; All
Bush is the president. He has done many things that I do not agree with, but not nearly as many as his predecessor.
Just because he's got an "R" next to his name does not make him immune to criticism from the right. He still works for us ("We the People," remember?), not the other way around.

If this is a trial balloon (which it sounds like it is) it's up to us to shoot it down. Holding our tongues is tacit approval of a Gonzales pick by the Prez, and before you know it we have Justice Gonzales and twenty more years of judicial tyranny.

I haven't voted Republican for my entire adult life just to sit on my hands while my President considers pointing a moderate.

196 posted on 07/10/2005 9:12:53 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: colonel mosby

Yeah, but the commie press called both Clinton's appointees "moderates." To them, anything right of Lenin apparently qualifies.


197 posted on 07/10/2005 9:13:56 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Paloma_55; All

pointing = appointing


198 posted on 07/10/2005 9:14:39 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: highball

Byron "Whizzer" White, appointed by JFK, was the last justice to move rightward after joining the court. He was one of the two dissenters in Roe, along with Rehnquist.


199 posted on 07/10/2005 9:16:32 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: billnaz
billnaz said: "I understand that Gonzales is at best lukewarm on gun rights and the Second Amendment. "

Anyone who believes that the Second Amendment allows for the outlawing of some rifles because they have a bayonet lug on them (just the little piece of metal for attaching a bayonet, not even the bayonet itself) is unsuited to be a judge, or Attorney General, anywhere in the US.

200 posted on 07/10/2005 9:16:32 PM PDT by William Tell
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